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Good night, good night. Parting is such sweet sorrow

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One question you never addressed 05. If YOU were responsible for subduing a 400 lb man who had made threatening statements exactly how would you go about it?

The image doesn;t equate perfectly because the "choke hold" is not any where's close to the same effect or severity.

Quincy have someone that knows a little something put you in a choke hold similar to the one pictured from MMA and see how many times you can say "I can;t breathe".

Hint: why do you think people tap instead of saying I quit.

Probably with a Taser. Or I would contemplate why I was using force on someone that was a suspect for a misdemeanor.

I could probably say it a few times. But if you note in the actual video, he doesn't say anything until the hold is released. At that point the "chest compression" aspect comes in to play. (see: autopsy).

People tap because it's a hell of a lot more obvious. Why do they still tap when they are in a non-choke submission?

Take your pick quincy.

http://search.sidecubes.com/?st=nt&q=suspect%20dies%20from%20heart%20att...

So you taze the guy with a bad heart condition and he dies and you are the very cop you are bitching about.

Maybe not as easy as it looks from behind the computer eh 05?

Once again quincy have someone that knows what they are doing out you in a actual "choke hold" intending to choke you to sleep or kill you and say "I can;t breathe" several times.

"Tapping out"is a universal signal to be used in MMA because there are in fact times when the fighter can not speak during choke holds.

quincy when you do the above, please video it and post it on here.

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Quincy simple question. What in the post was not factual?

No idea, I don't trust it to be. Would you trust an article from Sharpton about the officer if I posted it? I highly doubt it. Hell you guys don't even like Wiki because you think it's biased. NEWS FLASH, any asshole can make a blog, if you worried about anyone editing wiki.

Speculating?

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Remember here big shooter, I don;t think any one else has claimed their spelling and punctuation to be "impeccable".

I was being arrogant. It's a liberal tool.

Fixed it for ya.

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Case in point.

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Quincy I am real curious to your answer to this one question.

How much smarter do you think you are than everyone else on this site?

Right now? Depends on the topic. The more you talk, I gain confidence it's quite a bit.

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 Anyone else have a doctoral degree?

DirtyMike wins!  On a side note, this Tom and Jerry mix is fantastic. Although it calls for one shot each of brandy and rum, I feel like two a piece makes thing interesting. 


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http://www.thefederalistpapers.org/us/nyc-mayor-calls-for-halt-to-protes...

Apparently you can make people fly into buildings killing themselves and thousands of others by simply telling them to..................................................................................................................................

But you can;t make people stop protesting by simply asking them to. "F--k that".

“The mayor says stop that, we say f--k that!” yelled activists, while jumping in place. They started on 59th Street and 5th Avenue, went down to 53rd Street, and then marched up the Upper East Side.

Tarik Grand, 25, of Brooklyn said he was out there because of de Blasio’s words on Monday. “We’re protesting tonight, because the mayor specifically said not to,” he said. “They asked for a moment of silence for the cops, but not for Garner.”

Most of the agitators chanted angrily at the police. “How do you spell murderers? N-Y-P-D!” said the agitators.

“NYPD, KKK, how many kids did you kill today?” other protesters chanted, who started on the sidewalk before moving onto the streets of Fifth and Madison Avenue.


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 Anyone else have a doctoral degree?

DirtyMike wins!  On a side note, this Tom and Jerry mix is fantastic. Although it calls for one shot each of brandy and rum, I feel like two a piece makes thing interesting. 

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Good news.  Not everyone is a cop hater.

http://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/us-nyc-deaths-surge-support-police-27806721

No one thinks all cops are good, but we still argue on FB.
Everyone things bad cops deserve punishment, but we still argue on FB.
Everyone who is qualified agrees including the coroner and the grand jury that (forgot the name) wasn't choked, but we still argue on FB.
Now we have another shooting in a St. Louise suburb.  There is video, but I'm waiting for expert opinion on FB. The mother says her 18 year old son was there with his girlfriend, but the video has two guys.  Hmmmmm she wouldn't lie would she?

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And just when this idiot was about to bow out you  guyz get him all fired up again....dang-it! Now we''ll have too sit through another  3pages of his babble!

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And just when this idiot was about to bow out you  guyz get him all fired up again....dang-it! Now we''ll have too sit through another  3pages of his babble!

Hey asshole, I see you are still banging your head on a keyboard and producing sentences. Mommy must be so proud.

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"Tapping out"is a universal signal to be used in MMA because there are in fact times when the fighter can not speak during choke holds.

Oh, so there are times when people can speak during choke holds? Yeah, you're contradicting yourself.

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Calm down quin,you don't have to be a prick everyday...actually why not call it a day and go find a protest somewhere,do your part and get your ass beat for the cause.

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Just following by your example.

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Take your pick quincy.

So you taze the guy with a bad heart condition and he dies and you are the very cop you are bitching about.

Maybe not as easy as it looks from behind the computer eh 05? 

You do realize you asked how I would do it correct? And you do realize that right after the tazer comment what I wrote, correct? Or are you so eager to jump down my throat you don't realize what I actually write and instead are just ready to attack.

Yes, tazers kill people, however, I'm guessing at a lower rate than choking and piling 6 people on a guy.

But realistically, do you know what doesn't kill someone? Not attacking him with unwarranted force. 

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Everyone who is qualified

What were the qualifications?

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"Tapping out"is a universal signal to be used in MMA because there are in fact times when the fighter can not speak during choke holds.

Oh, so there are times when people can speak during choke holds? Yeah, you're contradicting yourself.

But YOU are the one claiming Garner was choked, an yet he repeatedly spoke.

I think you better look in the mirror to see who is "contradicting" himself.

So can you or can;t you speak when you are being "choked" 005.

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Take your pick quincy.

So you taze the guy with a bad heart condition and he dies and you are the very cop you are bitching about.

Maybe not as easy as it looks from behind the computer eh 05? 

You do realize you asked how I would do it correct? And you do realize that right after the tazer comment what I wrote, correct? Or are you so eager to jump down my throat you don't realize what I actually write and instead are just ready to attack.

Yes, tazers kill people, however, I'm guessing at a lower rate than choking and piling 6 people on a guy.

But realistically, do you know what doesn't kill someone? Not attacking him with unwarranted force. 

So now you are backpedaling away from your response how you would "deal" with it? Come on quincy you had how much time to think about what YOU would do and you are now second guessing yourself.

News flash for you fella, that is not howit works in the real world, only hiding behind your computer.

You also know what doesn;t kill someone?

Complying with an order a cop gives you and not trying to take their gun, beat their ass or threatening them.


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 Has anyone else noticed 19 pages and plainsman and gst are still on the same side.     Its a christmas miracle.  Good work fellas.   Lol

 

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 Has anyone else noticed 19 pages and plainsman and gst are still on the same side.     Its a christmas miracle.  Good work fellas.   Lol

You are going to get a lecture from the punctuation police.

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Everyone who is qualified

What were the qualifications?

Truthfully I don't know if I'm qualified enough to describe the qualifications.  I simply see enough evidence that the man was not choked.  I guess I see the coroner as one qualified.  I also would surmise that the grand jury had other qualified people to help with the decision.  None of us have had that, so none of us are really qualified.  I think it's much like the Ferguson witnesses who lied about hands up don't shoot.  Now it's happened again in a suburb near Ferguson and the mother said her son was just out with his girlfriend.  The store security cameras have two men approaching the police.  Likewise I think the people who said (whatever his name was) was choked are also liars. 
I notice that around the nation people are taking time to support their local police.  They see it as necessary because of the unwarranted attacks, and accusations from our highest office. 

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 Cops are bad m'kay

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Take your pick quincy.

So you taze the guy with a bad heart condition and he dies and you are the very cop you are bitching about.

Maybe not as easy as it looks from behind the computer eh 05? 

You do realize you asked how I would do it correct? And you do realize that right after the tazer comment what I wrote, correct? Or are you so eager to jump down my throat you don't realize what I actually write and instead are just ready to attack.

Yes, tazers kill people, however, I'm guessing at a lower rate than choking and piling 6 people on a guy.

But realistically, do you know what doesn't kill someone? Not attacking him with unwarranted force. 

Following orders or instructions when told to or not to do something.  To me it is pretty simple to not have anything bad happen if you just do what they are asking you to do.  This seems to be what has happened in all or most of the circumstances where they are complaining about the Police being overly aggressive.
Just my 2 cents.

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Spot on. It does no good to resist. If they have decided to arrest you they will call enough back up to get the job done regardless of how much you resist. If there is an issue with the arrest you can dispute it later and at least you will likely be alive.

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Take your pick quincy.

So you taze the guy with a bad heart condition and he dies and you are the very cop you are bitching about.

Maybe not as easy as it looks from behind the computer eh 05? 

You do realize you asked how I would do it correct? And you do realize that right after the tazer comment what I wrote, correct? Or are you so eager to jump down my throat you don't realize what I actually write and instead are just ready to attack.

Yes, tazers kill people, however, I'm guessing at a lower rate than choking and piling 6 people on a guy.

But realistically, do you know what doesn't kill someone? Not attacking him with unwarranted force. 

Following orders or instructions when told to or not to do something.  To me it is pretty simple to not have anything bad happen if you just do what they are asking you to do.  This seems to be what has happened in all or most of the circumstances where they are complaining about the Police being overly aggressive.
Just my 2 cents.

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The people we see resisting are those that for some reason have become so arrogant they don't think the laws apply to them.  Then they carry that resistance to far and find themselves pushing up posies.  It's a case of terminal stupidity.  Also, suicide by police is a real thing.  Some of these jokers don't have the guts to do  themselves in so they use the police.  Others hit innocent people head on with their vehicle.  They don't respect their own lives or the lives of others. 

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 Now Garner's daughter has tweeted the home address of one of the cops that responded to Garner's attempted arrest AND five people she ASSUMED are related to him. 

 

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2887695/Cops-fury-Eric-Garner-s-...

 

JetBlue is flying cops to the funerals in NYC free, and they get bomb threats and demands to fly protesters around the country free.

 

The Anarchist mobs driving their BMWs over to Oakland from Silicon Valley and skate boarding from UC Bezerkley are still demolishing neighborhoods in poor black areas despite being told to F off by the folks that actually live there. Strange they won't trash their own streets in SF and SJ.

 

These protesters are showing themselves to be sick malcontent bastards, not the socially aware everyday citizens the media wants everyone to think. The same thing happened with Occupy and the same with the Flower Children of the 60's. The same sort of idiots.
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  Has anyone else noticed 19 pages and plainsman and gst are still on the same side.     Its a christmas miracle.  Good work fellas.   Lol

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  Has anyone else noticed 19 pages and plainsman and gst are still on the same side.     Its a christmas miracle.  Good work fellas.   Lol

Hallenujah!

Truth be told, plainsman and even liberal bob and I probably would likely agree on more than we disagree on............................they just have to change the way they think about some stuff.

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  Has anyone else noticed 19 pages and plainsman and gst are still on the same side.     Its a christmas miracle.  Good work fellas.   Lol

Hallenujah!

Truth be told, plainsman and even liberal bob and I probably would agree on more than we disagree on............................they just have to change the say they think about some stuff.

I'm sure your right.   Perhaps even more than you can imagine. 

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Has anyone ever thought that this seems to be a pattern?  The top goverment officials are stoking the fires of racial divide, and not supporting law enforcement. sounds like a ploy to have total the police just either quit or throw thier hands in the air and say "F"-it. Well my friends if that happens then the officials in Washington have a perfect reason to start having "Marshall Law"

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Has anyone ever thought that this seems to be a pattern?  The top goverment officials are stoking the fires of racial divide, and not supporting law enforcement. sounds like a ploy to have total the police just either quit or throw thier hands in the air and say "F"-it. Well my friends if that happens then the officials in Washington have a perfect reason to start having "Marshall Law"

Don't say this can never happen here.

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Has anyone ever thought that this seems to be a pattern?  The top goverment officials are stoking the fires of racial divide, and not supporting law enforcement. sounds like a ploy to have total the police just either quit or throw thier hands in the air and say "F"-it. Well my friends if that happens then the officials in Washington have a perfect reason to start having "Marshall Law"

Don't say this can never happen here.

It certainly never would unless the police or the armed forces go along with it.

That said, the reason liberal politicians are currently dividing by race is to inflame and motivate minority voters. Pretty much the same tactics the populists did in ND, MT and MN years ago. It always seems to work to get people riled up against some evil entity. It's an old trick and in truth that is what some of the far right groups are trying to do by...er...claiming someone wants to impose 'Marshall Law' perhaps?   It seems to me understanding the motives of politicians and interest groups  before grabbing the pitch forks is always a good idea, and the way to keep from being used.

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I agree, but it defies common sense that the top goverment officials are stoking this stuff, I just don't understand it all, maybe i am just getting old?

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Can you hold elections during marshal law?  Is it a doorway to dictatorship?

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I agree, but it defies common sense that the top goverment officials are stoking this stuff, I just don't understand it all, maybe i am just getting old?

It comes down to the 'rules' Democrats have mastered to win with. (Note rule ten is not being followed by many anti cop protesters.)

Saul Alinsky’s 12 Rules for Radicals

* RULE 1: “Power is not only what you have, but what the enemy thinks you have.” Power is derived from 2 main sources – money and people. “Have-Nots” must build power from flesh and blood. (These are two things of which there is a plentiful supply. Government and corporations always have a difficult time appealing to people, and usually do so almost exclusively with economic arguments.)

* RULE 2: “Never go outside the expertise of your people.” It results in confusion, fear and retreat. Feeling secure adds to the backbone of anyone. (Organizations under attack wonder why radicals don’t address the “real” issues. This is why. They avoid things with which they have no knowledge.)

* RULE 3: “Whenever possible, go outside the expertise of the enemy.” Look for ways to increase insecurity, anxiety and uncertainty. (This happens all the time. Watch how many organizations under attack are blind-sided by seemingly irrelevant arguments that they are then forced to address.)

* RULE 4: “Make the enemy live up to its own book of rules.” If the rule is that every letter gets a reply, send 30,000 letters. You can kill them with this because no one can possibly obey all of their own rules. (This is a serious rule. The besieged entity’s very credibility and reputation is at stake, because if activists catch it lying or not living up to its commitments, they can continue to chip away at the damage.)

* RULE 5: “Ridicule is man’s most potent weapon.” There is no defense. It’s irrational. It’s infuriating. It also works as a key pressure point to force the enemy into concessions. (Pretty crude, rude and mean, huh? They want to create anger and fear.)

* RULE 6: “A good tactic is one your people enjoy.” They’ll keep doing it without urging and come back to do more. They’re doing their thing, and will even suggest better ones. (Radical activists, in this sense, are no different that any other human being. We all avoid “un-fun” activities, and but we revel at and enjoy the ones that work and bring results.)

* RULE 7: “A tactic that drags on too long becomes a drag.” Don’t become old news. (Even radical activists get bored. So to keep them excited and involved, organizers are constantly coming up with new tactics.)

* RULE 8: “Keep the pressure on. Never let up.” Keep trying new things to keep the opposition off balance. As the opposition masters one approach, hit them from the flank with something new. (Attack, attack, attack from all sides, never giving the reeling organization a chance to rest, regroup, recover and re-strategize.)

* RULE 9: “The threat is usually more terrifying than the thing itself.” Imagination and ego can dream up many more consequences than any activist. (Perception is reality. Large organizations always prepare a worst-case scenario, something that may be furthest from the activists’ minds. The upshot is that the organization will expend enormous time and energy, creating in its own collective mind the direst of conclusions. The possibilities can easily poison the mind and result in demoralization.)

* RULE 10: “If you push a negative hard enough, it will push through and become a positive.” Violence from the other side can win the public to your side because the public sympathizes with the underdog. (Unions used this tactic. Peaceful [albeit loud] demonstrations during the heyday of unions in the early to mid-20th Century incurred management’s wrath, often in the form of violence that eventually brought public sympathy to their side.)

* RULE 11: “The price of a successful attack is a constructive alternative.” Never let the enemy score points because you’re caught without a solution to the problem. (Old saw: If you’re not part of the solution, you’re part of the problem. Activist organizations have an agenda, and their strategy is to hold a place at the table, to be given a forum to wield their power. So, they have to have a compromise solution.)

* RULE 12: Pick the target, freeze it, personalize it, and polarize it.” Cut off the support network and isolate the target from sympathy. Go after people and not institutions; people hurt faster than institutions. (This is cruel, but very effective. Direct, personalized criticism and ridicule works.)

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But YOU are the one claiming Garner was choked, an yet he repeatedly spoke.


Have you watched the video?

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Truthfully I don't know if I'm qualified enough to describe the qualifications.    

Then how can you make a statement like you did?

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Following orders or instructions when told to or not to do something.  To me it is pretty simple to not have anything bad happen if you just do what they are asking you to do.  This seems to be what has happened in all or most of the circumstances where they are complaining about the Police being overly aggressive.
Just my 2 cents.

So now police have the backing to kill anyone that doesn't listen to them :O

WTF you guys, do you realize how scary this is?

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The people we see resisting are those that for some reason have become so arrogant they don't think the laws apply to them.  Then they carry that resistance to far and find themselves pushing up posies.  It's a case of terminal stupidity.  Also, suicide by police is a real thing.  Some of these jokers don't have the guts to do  themselves in so they use the police.  Others hit innocent people head on with their vehicle.  They don't respect their own lives or the lives of others. 

Holy shit if this doesn't apply to certain police officers as well. Why in the hell do we allow the police to be above the law? We don't allow politicians to pass unconstitutional laws in the sake of protecting people. EMT's can't assault the people they are helping. Firemen can't demolish poor buildings willfully. So why the hell do we allow police to be above the law for the sake of "helping others".

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Has anyone ever thought that this seems to be a pattern?  The top goverment officials are stoking the fires of racial divide, and not supporting law enforcement. sounds like a ploy to have total the police just either quit or throw thier hands in the air and say "F"-it. Well my friends if that happens then the officials in Washington have a perfect reason to start having "Marshall Law"

HAHAHAHA

I think this would be more along the lines of a police based coup if you are looking into a movie script. But that's just me.

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I agree, but it defies common sense that the top goverment officials are stoking this stuff, I just don't understand it all, maybe i am just getting old?

What defies common sense are employees actively being disobedient and still having their jobs. Next time you're in a meeting with your boss, stand up and turn your back to him. Let me know how it goes. 

If you don't like the policies of your boss, quit.

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 http://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2014/12/28/tribalism-cops-killing-...

A healthy society would stigmatize, marginalize and shun the tribalizers. Sharpton, who has incited racial violencein the past, would not have a network TV show (even on MSNBC), and would not be treated as a legitimate civil rights spokesman. Police unions, which have a history of interfering with efforts to hold officers accountable for acts that, if they were committed by civilians, would be prosecuted as crimes, would not be given a preferred political position, if they were allowed to exist at all. (Personally, I agree with FDR that public employee unions are essentially a conspiracy against the taxpayers; it's an even more significant matter when they're public employees who carry guns.)

In a healthy civil society, people can deal with others without worrying about tribalism, confident that disputes will be settled by neutral and reasonably fair procedures overseen by neutral and fair people. In a tribalized society, what matters is what tribe you belong to, and who is on top at the moment.

Healthy civil societies are a lot better places to live. They're richer, safer and more peaceful. But healthy civil societies don't provide the opportunity for political power grabs, for payoffs and for extortion that tribalized societies do. It's no wonder that so many political figures favor tribalism. The question is, how long will the rest of us allow them to get away with it?

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I agree, but it defies common sense that the top goverment officials are stoking this stuff, I just don't understand it all, maybe i am just getting old?

It comes down to the 'rules' Democrats have mastered to win with. (Note rule ten is not being followed by many anti cop protesters.)

Saul Alinsky’s 12 Rules for Radicals

* RULE 1: “Power is not only what you have, but what the enemy thinks you have.” Power is derived from 2 main sources – money and people. “Have-Nots” must build power from flesh and blood. (These are two things of which there is a plentiful supply. Government and corporations always have a difficult time appealing to people, and usually do so almost exclusively with economic arguments.)

* RULE 2: “Never go outside the expertise of your people.” It results in confusion, fear and retreat. Feeling secure adds to the backbone of anyone. (Organizations under attack wonder why radicals don’t address the “real” issues. This is why. They avoid things with which they have no knowledge.)

* RULE 3: “Whenever possible, go outside the expertise of the enemy.” Look for ways to increase insecurity, anxiety and uncertainty. (This happens all the time. Watch how many organizations under attack are blind-sided by seemingly irrelevant arguments that they are then forced to address.)

* RULE 4: “Make the enemy live up to its own book of rules.” If the rule is that every letter gets a reply, send 30,000 letters. You can kill them with this because no one can possibly obey all of their own rules. (This is a serious rule. The besieged entity’s very credibility and reputation is at stake, because if activists catch it lying or not living up to its commitments, they can continue to chip away at the damage.)

* RULE 5: “Ridicule is man’s most potent weapon.” There is no defense. It’s irrational. It’s infuriating. It also works as a key pressure point to force the enemy into concessions. (Pretty crude, rude and mean, huh? They want to create anger and fear.)

* RULE 6: “A good tactic is one your people enjoy.” They’ll keep doing it without urging and come back to do more. They’re doing their thing, and will even suggest better ones. (Radical activists, in this sense, are no different that any other human being. We all avoid “un-fun” activities, and but we revel at and enjoy the ones that work and bring results.)

* RULE 7: “A tactic that drags on too long becomes a drag.” Don’t become old news. (Even radical activists get bored. So to keep them excited and involved, organizers are constantly coming up with new tactics.)

* RULE 8: “Keep the pressure on. Never let up.” Keep trying new things to keep the opposition off balance. As the opposition masters one approach, hit them from the flank with something new. (Attack, attack, attack from all sides, never giving the reeling organization a chance to rest, regroup, recover and re-strategize.)

* RULE 9: “The threat is usually more terrifying than the thing itself.” Imagination and ego can dream up many more consequences than any activist. (Perception is reality. Large organizations always prepare a worst-case scenario, something that may be furthest from the activists’ minds. The upshot is that the organization will expend enormous time and energy, creating in its own collective mind the direst of conclusions. The possibilities can easily poison the mind and result in demoralization.)

* RULE 10: “If you push a negative hard enough, it will push through and become a positive.” Violence from the other side can win the public to your side because the public sympathizes with the underdog. (Unions used this tactic. Peaceful [albeit loud] demonstrations during the heyday of unions in the early to mid-20th Century incurred management’s wrath, often in the form of violence that eventually brought public sympathy to their side.)

* RULE 11: “The price of a successful attack is a constructive alternative.” Never let the enemy score points because you’re caught without a solution to the problem. (Old saw: If you’re not part of the solution, you’re part of the problem. Activist organizations have an agenda, and their strategy is to hold a place at the table, to be given a forum to wield their power. So, they have to have a compromise solution.)

* RULE 12: Pick the target, freeze it, personalize it, and polarize it.” Cut off the support network and isolate the target from sympathy. Go after people and not institutions; people hurt faster than institutions. (This is cruel, but very effective. Direct, personalized criticism and ridicule works.)

Police and their backers seem to have these memorized as well.

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The people we see resisting are those that for some reason have become so arrogant they don't think the laws apply to them.  Then they carry that resistance to far and find themselves pushing up posies.  It's a case of terminal stupidity.  Also, suicide by police is a real thing.  Some of these jokers don't have the guts to do  themselves in so they use the police.  Others hit innocent people head on with their vehicle.  They don't respect their own lives or the lives of others. 

Holy shit if this doesn't apply to certain police officers as well. Why in the hell do we allow the police to be above the law? We don't allow politicians to pass unconstitutional laws in the sake of protecting people. EMT's can't assault the people they are helping. Firemen can't demolish poor buildings willfully. So why the hell do we allow police to be above the law for the sake of "helping others".

Obama care?

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Obama care?

Bingo.

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This moment is a paradox, it's the oldest you've ever been as well as the youngest you'll ever be.



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This moment is a paradox, it's the oldest you've ever been as well as the youngest you'll ever be.



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I agree, but it defies common sense that the top goverment officials are stoking this stuff, I just don't understand it all, maybe i am just getting old?

What defies common sense are employees actively being disobedient and still having their jobs. Next time you're in a meeting with your boss, stand up and turn your back to him. Let me know how it goes. 

If you don't like the policies of your boss, quit.

Isn;'t that what you said you would do when you were asked how you would subdue a 400 lb man after your initial "tase the bastard" response?

Quincy show where anyone has said police should be "above the law".

You certainly seem to like making up what people have said that they in fact have not said just so you can say they said something they have not said to make what you have said not seem so stupid.

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I agree, but it defies common sense that the top goverment officials are stoking this stuff, I just don't understand it all, maybe i am just getting old?

What defies common sense are employees actively being disobedient and still having their jobs. Next time you're in a meeting with your boss, stand up and turn your back to him. Let me know how it goes. 

If you don't like the policies of your boss, quit.

Isn;'t that what you said you would do when you were asked how you would subdue a 400 lb man after your initial "tase the bastard" response?

Quincy show where anyone has said police should be "above the law".

You certainly seem to like making up what people have said that they in fact have not said just so you can say they said something they have not said to make what you have said not seem so stupid. 

Hey, now. We all know you're guilty of the same in the past. 

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