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Multi it seems you overlooked who authored the piece in the link I provided.  But hey what ever fits your agenda here right!

Dr. David Dewitt, PhD.

http://www.liberty.edu/academics/healthsciences/biology-chemistry/?PID=6627

Dr. DeWitt is the director of the Center for Creation Studies and an associate professor of biology at Liberty University in Lynchburg, Virginia, USA. His Ph.D. is in neurosciences from Case Western Reserve University and the focus of his research is the cell biology of Alzheimer's disease.

your buddy DeWitt (in that article) was referring to "Haldane's dilemma" which has been refuted by much much more compelling evidence to explain his dilemas and discrepancies he has found in the genomes and refused to research any further.

for one example: DeWitt never took into concideration the near extinction of our species from the Tolba volcanic event that bottlenecked our species eliminating the mutations he couldn't account for.

dude, you really gotta avoid anything that Ken Ham guy puts out there.

is that one of those "alternative explanations" ?

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 geez man, do you really want me to keep going?

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How about you just answer some of the real simple questions you have been asked?

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 I'd rather just keep discrediting your evidence and its sources, after all were not talking about eggs anyway.  

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I went fishing this spring and it was awesome. I recommend it.

 

 "I get what you're saying:  Like a sausage replica featuring a Polander holding a sacred illumination device." 

 

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GST spends the better part of 20 pages repeatedly claiming the global science behind evolution is wrong....then posts links to Ken Ham's "truth in genesis" website.  I suppose he will next post a link to the Westboro Baptist churches explanations to the diversity of life on planet earth.

Your source Dewitt over at the "creation station" believes the earth is 6,000 years old (literally).  he thinks the human population has been "steady" and has grown at the exact same rate in that 6,000 years, along with chimps.  then he "maps" their genomes and says "look, the entire global scientific community is wrong" because the answers he got didn't fit into a steady population expansion of a 6,000 year old planet with no events or abrupt die offs altering his sample.

I could go one for 20 more pages if anyone is actually interested in refuting Mr. Ham and his "scientists"

Hey GST, whats Mr. Phelps take on evolution? 

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Multi, I simply posted Dr David Dewitts comments to show there are actually people with letters after their names that are" skeptic" of yesterdays science.

I mean multi, you seem to wish to overlook the FACT that TODAYS SCIENCE contradicts YESTERDAYS SCIENCE in things associated with evolution.

So multi if you wish to "discredit" others in sciences claims why not post your credentials to give credit to your claims. 

I mean claiming alligators have morals?

Come on multi surely you can see where that might make one question your claims on other things right?

I mean even Mr Ham likely would not be so foolish to make that claim now would he.

But then again I guess your "alternative explanation" to your claim that aligators have "morals" is it all depends on your "definition of morals" .

If you wish to maintain your arrogance in believing yesterdays science allows you to know everything there is to know about evolution to the point you claim man crawled out of the ooze of the swamp and that all one ends up being is worm shit once you die, you are most certainly welcome to it, just try not to be such an condescending asshole when you have a discussion with those that believe differently than you and show a little respect.

I mean after all 20 pages of pointing out how todays science is beginnning to contradict yesterdays science,even YOU have backedaled from where you were in previous threads and at the start of this one.

Multi's quote" Remember, my stance on evolution is not absolute,"

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 So a rancher and a fisherman were arguing about evolution.....

 

 "I get what you're saying:  Like a sausage replica featuring a Polander holding a sacred illumination device." 

 

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"For the evolution naysayers.... Rather than providing your own evidence to refute evolution, how's about you just scour the internet and come up w something that has been peer reviewed"

What is really important is if you allow the theory of evolution to consume you as "fact" or is the theory what it really is.  A theory.  Those that pray at the altar of theory run the risk of being proved the fool.  Naysayers you say?   WHO is the naysayer?

Peer review??  You mean, like has been called for in let's say, GLOBAL WARMING?  Algorian global warming, where the debate is over??  When you say "peer review" do not forget you are saying "peer politics".  Peer review has been proven wrong countless times.  It normally takes decades though, and often time centuries.

Mans ability to explain the universe (so called science) will never be able to measure God, so of course it is understandable that they can never include Him.  At the same time, many in science are devout followers of God.   Go figure?

 

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 gst, if we were actually having the alligator discussion, you would just keep bringing up evolution.

So, you disagree with my stance on evolution.  Can you back up your stance better than DeWitt and ken ham?

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 just for one discussion, try and stay on topic.  We can talk about nutrition and alligators later.  evolution, true or false, and is ken ham and his associates going to be the sources that support your claims?

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I went fishing this spring and it was awesome. I recommend it.

Wags is a genius, he realizes the quickest way to end an argument with gst on fishingbuddy, is to start talking about fishing.

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The Bible is my source.

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multi, lets not forget who introduced the "alligators have morals" claim into a previous evolution discussionIf it was good enough for you to bring it up then, why are you trying to avoid accepting responsiblity for your claims as well as your disclaimer ......................................."The first problem is your personal definition of morals"
. I mean with those kinds of parameters you can "prove" almost anything.  

Now I would have thought you to be more perceptive in that I have stated more than once I beleive evolution occurs, just not to the level you claim that allows for mans formation from a single cell piece of swamp ooze as you have claimed previously.

I would guess if you wish to pin point where my beliefs are, I would guess they are pretty close to what the links I shared with you and espringers regarding the Catholics faith state.

So now multi if you do not wish to defend your "alligators have morals" claim, would you please explain why your "faith" in evolution is "not absolute" as you have just lately admitted.

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 what about al gore?

 "I'll show you where the bear sh**s in the woods!" ~ Dad
(I still have no clue what it means.)

"You're not really even my son." ~ Dad
(I still don't believe him.)

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 what's he excited about again?

 "I'll show you where the bear sh**s in the woods!" ~ Dad
(I still have no clue what it means.)

"You're not really even my son." ~ Dad
(I still don't believe him.)

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jsthntn Said:
 what's he excited about again?

He is excited to be in the headlines again, second rate purse fight or not!!

                                                                                                                         

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In January, leaders in Charlotte, North Carolina, invited their favorite
son, Billy Graham, to a luncheon in his honor. Billy initially hesitated to
accept the invitation because he struggles with Parkinson's disease. Billy
Graham is now 92 years-old with Parkinson's disease. But the Charlotte
leaders said, 'We don't expect a major address. Just come and let us honor
you.' So he agreed.

After wonderful things were said about him, Dr. Graham stepped to the
rostrum, looked at the crowd, and said, "I'm reminded today of Albert
Einstein, the great physicist who this month has been honored by Time
magazine as the Man of the Century. Einstein was once traveling from
Princeton on a train when the conductor came down the aisle, punching the
tickets of every passenger. When he came to Einstein, Einstein reached in
his vest pocket. He couldn't find his ticket, so he reached in his trouser
pockets. It wasn't there. He looked in his briefcase but couldn't find it.
Then he looked in the seat beside him. He still couldn't find it. "The
conductor said, 'Dr. Einstein, I know who you are. We all know who you are.
I'm sure you bought a ticket. Don't worry about it.'" Einstein nodded
appreciatively. The conductor continued down the aisle punching tickets. As
he was ready to move to the next car, he turned around and saw the great
physicist down on his hands and knees looking under his seat for his ticket.
"The conductor rushed back and said, 'Dr. Einstein, Dr. Einstein, don't
worry, I know who you are; no problem. You don't need a ticket. I'm sure you
bought one.'

Einstein looked at him and said, "Young man, I too, know who I am.
What I don't know is where I'm going."

Having said that Billy Graham continued, "See the suit I'm wearing?
It's a brand new suit. My children and my grandchildren are telling me I've
gotten a little slovenly in my old age. I used to be a bit more fastidious.
So I went out and bought a new suit for this luncheon and one more occasion.
You know what that occasion is? This is the suit in which I'll be buried.
But when you hear I'm dead, I don't want you to immediately remember the
suit I'm wearing. I want you to remember
this:

I not only know who I am. I also know where I'm going." May your troubles be
less, your blessings more, and may nothing but happiness, come through your
door. "Life without God is like an unsharpened pencil - it has no point."

Amen & Peace My Friends
And may each of us have lived our lives so that when our ticket is punched
we don't have to worry about where we are going.

Neat

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"The Bible is my source"

Written by men, edited by a politician.

I say to hell with that pot o' gold.

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