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BringingTheRain Said:

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And archaic.

Enslow Said:
Abortion should make our society look very disturbing down the road when this time in history is studied in the history books.

Some day long long from now most people will shake there heads that humans were so religious for so long.

Yup all that the churches do in the world is a hoax and not real. 

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The only consolation in the incredible sickening number is that they are mostly liberals! 

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multi-species-angler Said:
 it sadens me to think of all the potential tax burdens lost in the mop on the booth floors at Risques.

What about all the potential tax payers that abortion has potentially taken?

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There have been some controversial studies that show the legalization of abortion due to Roe vs Wade in 1973 contributed significantly to the reduction in crime starting in the early 90's. Basically about the time these first aborted children would have started reaching the age of 18 is when crime started dropping from its peak.

No matter your view point, it is kind of interesting. Personally abortion is an issue im still a bit torn on.

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I didnt say anything about feeding the population of the US specifically. There will come a time when feeding the population of the EARTH will be problematic, the less people there are EVERYWHERE, the better off we will all be.

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Put those 55mil people in your back yard and see if you change your tune.... The earth is nearing capacity, what do you propose we do when we simply cannot grow enough food to feed everyone? Is it better to abort a fetus or let a child starve?

havingfun Said:
Sorry I wish that this could be put another way. Anyone who thinks abortion maybe better than 55 million more people,should lead the jump off the bridge. Abortion is the Killing of a human being no other way around it.
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I dont like abortions, but I also dont like the idea of another 55 million people living in the USA...

The US has less than 5 percent of the worlds population.  Your theory is bunk at best.  So our society doesn't have enough time to bone northerns and wait for a baby to be born.  #pathetic

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Abortion is just another case of the people not taken responsibility for their own actions and taking the easy way out.  There was a couple times in Highschool though when i thought i made a mistake and abortion did run through my head.  That sucked.

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So no room for rape incest mothers life or any extinuating circumstances from everyone that says its wrong.  So if the doc said its the fetus or both you chose death for both right.  If you can honestly say both you are an idiot.

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 it sadens me to think of all the potential tax burdens lost in the mop on the booth floors at Risques.

What about all the potential tax payers that abortion has potentially taken?

Something tells me abortion has canceled out more drains than faucets.  I don't have much if any evidence of this, just a hunch based off my stereotypical view of people's financial and responsibility levels that have had abortions.

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I like to look at this in a whole other direction. A lot of us on here think or say that we are all about our freedoms. Especially when it comes to our guns. No one wants their "freedom" or right to bear arms to go away. We all say that the government has no right to tell us what we can do with our beloved personal possessions(guns). So how can we say this and then turn around and say I want the government to dictate what we can do with our own bodies. Where is the line? You want freedom or not? Your either free or your not! Think about it...

"The farther one gets into the wilderness, the greater is the attraction of its lonely freedom." Theodore Roosevelt

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Enslow Said:

BringingTheRain Said:

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And archaic.

Enslow Said:
Abortion should make our society look very disturbing down the road when this time in history is studied in the history books.

Some day long long from now most people will shake there heads that humans were so religious for so long.

Yup all that the churches do in the world is a hoax and not real. 

Churches are very real. What they believe in is more what I was talking about.

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BringingTheRain Said:

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BringingTheRain Said:

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And archaic.

Enslow Said:
Abortion should make our society look very disturbing down the road when this time in history is studied in the history books.

Some day long long from now most people will shake there heads that humans were so religious for so long.

Yup all that the churches do in the world is a hoax and not real. 

Churches are very real. What they believe in is more what I was talking about.

Why so negative on God?  Did you get sucked into a Benny Hinn program once?

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huntinforfish Said:
I like to look at this in a whole other direction. A lot of us on here think or say that we are all about our freedoms. Especially when it comes to our guns. No one wants their "freedom" or right to bear arms to go away. We all say that the government has no right to tell us what we can do with our beloved personal possessions(guns). So how can we say this and then turn around and say I want the government to dictate what we can do with our own bodies. Where is the line? You want freedom or not? Your either free or your not! Think about it...

Killing babies means freedom? 

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Like a few of you have posted above Abortion is murder plan and simple.  I know a few women that have had an abortion and they struggle with it every day and will for the rest of their lives.  When I was young and had no children of my own I used to have more of a accepting attitude towards abortion but that changed once my wife became pregnant with our first daughter.  Once you have your own kids I don't know how you could believe that abortion is just killing a cluster of cells and not a human being.   This is one part of our society that is really screwed up. 

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I use to not care as much about abortion.  But after meeting my wife, marrying her and getting to know her family whom adopted her I have a very different outlook on it.

Bottom-line, if her mother aborted her then I wouldn't be married to her.

Make a guy think doesn't it.

But I understand some of these comments people have made.  However, to me, all we do is invite people to indulge in lifestyles that makes it deem "okay" to kill an innocent life.

Sure, I will be on the side of if my wife or if my sister or if my daughter (if I ever have kids) were to get raped, I wouldn't really want to contend with that in my mind.  I don't care if it was considered God's will, that is one area where I'd tell him to shove it.

And then there is the health of the mother.  Although a very troubling decision to kill an innocent life I would probably say take the child and let the mother live.  So I can be on the side of the pro-choice folks there too.

What about a child with deformed body, is sick or whatever?  Somewhat of a tough decision again.  I am not sure where I sit on this one.  Will think...

But I guarantee, 54,559,615 innocent lives we've allowed to be killed aren't of the tough ones I mentioned above.  Probably the majority are from people not being taught wisely and partaking in activities they shouldn't.  If you aren't ready to deal with the consequence and decide to get lazy with proper protection then I don't feel sorry for you and I sure as hell don't feel sorry for you when I say you shouldn't be able to kill your child.

So, congratulations America.  You seem to want to ban guns because they have killed children but dare not to realize you've actually killed about as many as ten Hitlers did.


 

 

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Lycanthrope Said:
Put those 55mil people in your back yard and see if you change your tune.... The earth is nearing capacity, what do you propose we do when we simply cannot grow enough food to feed everyone? Is it better to abort a fetus or let a child starve?

havingfun Said:
Sorry I wish that this could be put another way. Anyone who thinks abortion maybe better than 55 million more people,should lead the jump off the bridge. Abortion is the Killing of a human being no other way around it.
Lycanthrope Said:
I dont like abortions, but I also dont like the idea of another 55 million people living in the USA...

Ya frickin cut off the entitlement crap.  Put morals back on our culture, etc, etc, etc.

We are already downsizing our families responsibly.  Well, the responsible people are anyway.

I say stop rewarding the damn worthless scum.


 

 

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huntinforfish Said:
I like to look at this in a whole other direction. A lot of us on here think or say that we are all about our freedoms. Especially when it comes to our guns. No one wants their "freedom" or right to bear arms to go away. We all say that the government has no right to tell us what we can do with our beloved personal possessions(guns). So how can we say this and then turn around and say I want the government to dictate what we can do with our own bodies. Where is the line? You want freedom or not? Your either free or your not! Think about it...

I agree with this 100%. Just didn't take the time to write it.

 I'm a realist when it comes to abortion. Women will have them whether it is legal or not.  I'd rather have a safe option be available then for them to go to then some back alley clinic.

 

 

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huntinforfish Said:
I like to look at this in a whole other direction. A lot of us on here think or say that we are all about our freedoms. Especially when it comes to our guns. No one wants their "freedom" or right to bear arms to go away. We all say that the government has no right to tell us what we can do with our beloved personal possessions(guns). So how can we say this and then turn around and say I want the government to dictate what we can do with our own bodies. Where is the line? You want freedom or not? Your either free or your not! Think about it...

If people want to abort why don't they just sterilize themselves?


 

 

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I like to look at this in a whole other direction. A lot of us on here think or say that we are all about our freedoms. Especially when it comes to our guns. No one wants their "freedom" or right to bear arms to go away. We all say that the government has no right to tell us what we can do with our beloved personal possessions(guns). So how can we say this and then turn around and say I want the government to dictate what we can do with our own bodies. Where is the line? You want freedom or not? Your either free or your not! Think about it...

I agree with this 100%. Just didn't take the time to write it.

 I'm a realist when it comes to abortion. Women will have them whether it is legal or not.  I'd rather have a safe option be available then for them to go to then some back alley clinic.

 

 

Again, unless raped or the baby is going to kill them, why don't they just sterilize themselves?

Or better yet, stop having sex?


 

 

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Tim Sandstrom Said:

huntinforfish Said:
I like to look at this in a whole other direction. A lot of us on here think or say that we are all about our freedoms. Especially when it comes to our guns. No one wants their "freedom" or right to bear arms to go away. We all say that the government has no right to tell us what we can do with our beloved personal possessions(guns). So how can we say this and then turn around and say I want the government to dictate what we can do with our own bodies. Where is the line? You want freedom or not? Your either free or your not! Think about it...

If people want to abort why don't they just sterilize themselves?

Hahah or wear a rubber

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When your leaders support taking away guns and killing babies you know you have a problem,

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Tim Sandstrom Said:
So, congratulations America.  You seem to want to ban guns because they have killed children but dare not to realize you've actually killed about as many as ten Hitlers did.

Perfect point

Neat

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Wait till you hear and see your first child's heartbeat on the ultrasound.  The thought of someone willingly destroying that for "convenience" makes you want to throw up.

I say to hell with that pot o' gold.

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If you believe that the unborn baby is not real and living, then I can understand the thinking of "our own bodies". The fact of the matter is that the baby is real and living. Please think about that.

huntinforfish Said:
I like to look at this in a whole other direction. A lot of us on here think or say that we are all about our freedoms. Especially when it comes to our guns. No one wants their "freedom" or right to bear arms to go away. We all say that the government has no right to tell us what we can do with our beloved personal possessions(guns). So how can we say this and then turn around and say I want the government to dictate what we can do with our own bodies. Where is the line? You want freedom or not? Your either free or your not! Think about it...
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Lycanthrope Said:
I dont like abortions, but I also dont like the idea of another 55 million people living in the USA...

Wow,what a Messed up statement

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 I look at this in an entirely different way.   I am against abortion.   I think it's a responsibility issue above all.   If teens are old enough to have sex they are old enough to know that they could end up with a baby.  Don't have sex if you don't want to risk having a baby.   If want to enjoy the pleasures of sex you have to deal with the potential consequences.   If you're 16 and you think you're old enough to have sex, and you happen to get your girlfriend pregnant you are old enough to get a job and take care of that baby.  What about college?   That was a sacrifice you made when you had sex with your girlfriend,  knowing that you could possibly get her pregnant.    

A lot of young people think that sex is a game you play with your boyfriend or girlfriend,  schools teach us to practice safe sex,  beginning at a fairly young age.   Instead of teaching that sex is only for people who are responsible enough to deal with the potential consequences. 

Instead of teaching your kids to practice safe sex,  teach them to NOT have sex until they can accept the facts and DEAL with the potential consequences.   Killing your baby is the easy way out.   Grow up and deal with it.

And I'd be really interested to know what percentage of abortions are performed on rape victims.

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The mantis, I don't disagree with anything you are saying. I just wanted to point out that abstinence sounds great and all to teach young people but I don't think it's all that realistic. Would you have (or did you) practice abstinence? Me either. Sarah palin advocates that route too but for some reason her own kids didn't even listen to her. When you have young people that age with crazy hormones, what do you think is going to happen? Parents along with public schools should show the reality of the consequences of having a kid before you are ready. Do accidents happen? Yep but a lot can be prevented by being educated and putting young girls on birth control. Then there is the whole religious aspect of not having sex before your married, no birth control etc. Go ahead and have a young daughter and not provide birth control or education and see what happens. Sure some will follow the rules but I was "that age" not that long ago and remember the reality of what happens. Just my opinion.

 

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I see alot of guys here preaching abstinence, responsibility, and condoms here.  I sure hope you guys are the ones with the perfect pasts that met a girl, went to church every sunday, got married, had sex for the first time, planned to have kids etc etc.  Because when I look at my past....oh boy, I remember taking a few swamp donkeys for a spin that would have made my life very different had they gotten pregnant, so I would be a huge hipocrite to tell someone else to not have sex. 

I do find it amusing that some of you preaching condoms and birth control belong to religions that have deemed these things a sin.

I don't really have much of a side or opinion on this topic, pretty indifferent, just glad I'm not a woman that may one day be in such a position of decision and judgement.

what are some of your thoughts on the morning after pill

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 Multi. I am 34 years-old. I didn't go to church. I will let it slide on birth control and religion. 

I have no kids. Was I lucky?  I guess people will say so but the stats are overwhelming that it takes some pretty bad luck to get it by properly practiced goalies. 


 

 

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 But wouldn't kill just to be convienent. 


 

 

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 And multi, why is it always a woman?  Takes two to tango. I figure it is a 50/50 split. 


 

 

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