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Well it's really only fair that they kill a couple of cops for every colored person that gets shot by a cop.  Kind of a proportional response isn't it?

If that's truly the case, then they are about 100 lives behind, FYI. These were the first NYC cops to be killed on duty since 2011. Guess how many black people have died since then? Or total people?

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 How come if a white person does something to a black person or a minority it is a hate crime.  But when a black person or another minority does something to a white person it isn't a hate crime.
Something to think about.

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 How come if a white person does something to a black person or a minority it is a hate crime.  But when a black person or another minority does something to a white person it isn't a hate crime.
Something to think about.

Because hate crime laws are completely arbitrary and should be repealed.

But actually, your thoughts are wrong (though I would have agreed with you).

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2014/aug/19/race-based-hate-crimes-spike-in-dc/?page=all

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 How come if a white person does something to a black person or a minority it is a hate crime.  But when a black person or another minority does something to a white person it isn't a hate crime.
Something to think about.

Because hate crime laws are completely arbitrary and should be repealed.     

But actually, your thoughts are wrong (though I would have agreed with you).

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2014/aug/19/race-based-hate-crimes-spike-in-dc/?page=all

Just seems like when the media reports it, it is never described as a hate crime when it happens against whites.  I too think it should be repealed.

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 How come if a white person does something to a black person or a minority it is a hate crime.  But when a black person or another minority does something to a white person it isn't a hate crime.
Something to think about.

Because hate crime laws are completely arbitrary and should be repealed.     

But actually, your thoughts are wrong (though I would have agreed with you).

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2014/aug/19/race-based-hate-crimes-spike-in-dc/?page=all

Just seems like when the media reports it, it is never described as a hate crime when it happens against whites.  I too think it should be repealed.

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 Just seems like when the media reports it...

Yeah, that's another problem altogether :)

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Where is the outrage that these two cops were executed? Where's the protests? Have'nt seen "not so sharp(Sharpton)" consoling the widows,I'll bet we'll see more shootings now than ever before,the NYPD is on edge big time,rightfully sooo.

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Remember when actual fiscal conservatives held their ground and gained concessions to reduce govt spending in a package to fund the govt to keep it running?

What ever happened to those concessions that were created to reduce the debt?

Later, when other fiscal conservatives held up funding the govt becasue those previous agreements were not being honored in the intent they were gained this nation blamed them for not being able to get their welfare checks on time.

You might want to take a closer look at who is responsible for running up debt and ruing this economy.


Not all GOP members were fiscal conservatives
FYI. There were far more that criticized the actions of members like Cruz and Paul than there were those that agreed with them.

No shit, didn;t say they were.

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Not sure what any of ur political over views have to do with the murder of these two officers. Funny how some of u can turn a topic into 10 pages of political BS.

It has everything to do with politics when we have the President of The United States, the AG of the United States and the Mayor of the largest city in the United States who is also the executive in charge of the department that employed these two men have been encouraging and enabling these protesters. Not peaceful protesters, 'burn this bitch down' protesters. Protesters that have become more and more violent, and last night sang the name of this gangster they consider a hero. This is what 'progressive' policies and thinking lead to and these 'progressive' politicians need to be held responsible and replaced with responsible members of society.

Oh good effing lord. The narrative of those folks didn't shoot these officers. The narrative of those folks didn't cause that asshole to shoot his ex-girlfriend too. The narrative of Palin and other conservatives during the 2008 election cycle didn't cause the asshole Laughner to shoot Giffords and others. The narrative of Rush didn't cause the asshole McVeigh to bomb a building.

Your post is indicative of what hyperpartisan thinking leads to. Distracting away from the assholes to blame the "other side" because you don't agree with them politically. There is one person at fault for the shooting... the shooter.

The "narrative" certainly contributed to people walking the streets of NY chanting they wanted dead cops and they wanted that now.
 
THAT likely contributed to some lunatic deciding today would be a good day to "give some pigs wings".

Anyone that would make an excuse for the  actions of the likes of Al Sharpton and the hate and racism it causes that contribute to something like this is a "hyper partisan" fool.

The entire reason people use things like this in the manner Obama, Holder, Sharpton do  is for personal or political gain.

The more of this BS they can incite and stir up the more relevant they believe they become.


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wonder what the cop-haters on FBO think of this?

 

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Where is the outrage that these two cops were executed?

Have you been in a cave the last few days?

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No shit, didn;t say they were.

Then what were you getting at by saying SlimBlundt needs to take a closer look at who was behind the problems? If you weren't alluding that Democrats were the problem, then why were you disagreeing with him?

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The "narrative" certainly contributed to people walking the streets of NY chanting they wanted dead cops and they wanted that now.
 
THAT likely contributed to some lunatic deciding today would be a good day to "give some pigs wings".

Anyone that would make an excuse for the  actions of the likes of Al Sharpton and the hate and racism it causes that contribute to something like this is a "hyper partisan" fool.

The entire reason people use things like this in the manner Obama, Holder, Sharpton do  is for personal or political gain.

The more of this BS they can incite and stir up the more relevant they believe they become.

Great, and the diagrams created by Palin "contributed" to the assault on Giffords and the deaths of others. The rhetoric by right-wing Republican, conservatives during the 90s "contributed" to the deaths in Okalhoma City at the hands of McVeigh...

No. The narrative by protestors didn't contribute to anything to the tragic deaths of these two officers. The words of Obama, Holder, De Blaiso, etc. didn't cause this asshole to shoot the two cops. The only one to blame is the shooter. Anything after that is hyperpartisan bullshit.

Your logic ends in with the assumption that YOU have now contributed to further police abuses against the law abiding and those that wish to peacefully protest. Congrats on furthering the contributions that degrade our society...

Personally I disagree with that logic and don't think your posts contribute to anything that assholes may decide to do.

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I see this chicken shit dirt bag shooter was arrested 19times and still had a weapon! and the blacks wonder why the PD profile in these shit hole cities,these  people don't have a life or have values or repect other folks,its like the "plague" and its spreading.

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I see this chicken shit dirt bag shooter was arrested 19times and still had a weapon! and the blacks wonder why the PD profile in these shit hole cities,these  people don't have a life or have values or repect other folks,its like the "plague" and its spreading.

So it wasn't because he was a suicidal asshole that he had a gun, it's because he was black...

Wait... Eric Frein was white... I'm so confused as to who we should be profiling now...

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Not sure what any of ur political over views have to do with the murder of these two officers. Funny how some of u can turn a topic into 10 pages of political BS.

It has everything to do with politics when we have the President of The United States, the AG of the United States and the Mayor of the largest city in the United States who is also the executive in charge of the department that employed these two men have been encouraging and enabling these protesters. Not peaceful protesters, 'burn this bitch down' protesters. Protesters that have become more and more violent, and last night sang the name of this gangster they consider a hero. This is what 'progressive' policies and thinking lead to and these 'progressive' politicians need to be held responsible and replaced with responsible members of society.

Oh good effing lord. The narrative of those folks didn't shoot these officers. The narrative of those folks didn't cause that asshole to shoot his ex-girlfriend too. The narrative of Palin and other conservatives during the 2008 election cycle didn't cause the asshole Laughner to shoot Giffords and others. The narrative of Rush didn't cause the asshole McVeigh to bomb a building.

Your post is indicative of what hyperpartisan thinking leads to. Distracting away from the assholes to blame the "other side" because you don't agree with them politically. There is one person at fault for the shooting... the shooter.

Quincy it isn't against the law to think.  Palin and Obama didn't say anything that could be construed as inciting violence.   Not the same as Obama and Holder saying they were going to investigate the police.  Investigating implied something was wrong.  That encouraged protests.  The mayor of New York was willing to throw the police under the buss.  Liberals have no respect for the military or the police.  I well remember the liberal hippy types of the mid 60's who called Viet Nam vets baby killers, and cops pigs.   Today they only pretend to respect the military and police because they would have no political future if they didn't.  A liberal can't be themselves and get elected. 

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I see this chicken shit dirt bag shooter was arrested 19times and still had a weapon! and the blacks wonder why the PD profile in these shit hole cities,these  people don't have a life or have values or repect other folks,its like the "plague" and its spreading.

So it wasn't because he was a suicidal asshole that he had a gun, it's because he was black...

Wait... Eric Frein was white... I'm so confused as to who we should be profiling now...

Criminals?

I think that is what he stated, he never claimed the blacks shoud be profiled, he said the blacks wonder why the police are in these shit hole neighborhoods.

Thats where the crime happens, not to many murders going on in podunk.

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Quincy it isn't against the law to think.  Palin and Obama didn't say anything that could be construed as inciting violence.   Not the same as Obama and Holder saying they were going to investigate the police.

HAHAHAHAHA, the cognitive dissonance here is rich. How in the hell does saying they are going to do a federal investigation correlate into calls for violence??????

Even the assholes saying stupid things at the protest doesn't equate to causation for the asshole that shot the cops.

Jesus, on no planet does that make the least bit of sense. The same logic is what caused stupid liberals to say "Palin's use of a bullseye and tea party rhetoric of 2nd Amendment fixes are what caused Gabby Giffords to be shot". You are using the same line of reasoning that you decry when it goes against someone on your side of the political spectrum.

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Criminals?

I think that is what he stated, he never claimed the blacks shoud be profiled, he said the blacks wonder why the police are in these shit hole neighborhoods.

No, he said "the blacks wonder why the PD profile in these shit hole cities". Don't change his words to be something better.

And if you can profile "criminals" based on looks alone, props to you. The other 99.99999999999999% of us can't.

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Clearly his subtle tones meant someone should go shoot a cop....

Christ, the Garner decision was a friggin joke, and this is coming from someone that agrees with the Brown/Wilson non-return.

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The mayor of New York was willing to throw the police under the buss.  Liberals have no respect for the military or the police.  I well remember the liberal hippy types of the mid 60's who called Viet Nam vets baby killers, and cops pigs.   Today they only pretend to respect the military and police because they would have no political future if they didn't.  A liberal can't be themselves and get elected. 

Look up the case of Akai Gurley. Tell me if the cops in that case should be thrown under the bus or praised.

Bad cops should be admonished. The cop that put a chokehold on Garner should be fired at the least. This isn't throwing cops under the bus; the sooner so-called "conservatives" figure this out, the better.

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Criminals?

I think that is what he stated, he never claimed the blacks shoud be profiled, he said the blacks wonder why the police are in these shit hole neighborhoods.

No, he said "the blacks wonder why the PD profile in these shit hole cities". Don't change his words to be something better.

And if you can profile "criminals" based on looks alone, props to you. The other 99.99999999999999% of us can't.

Ninteen arrests, kinda makes profiling easy, which is the number this kid had.

If you think the crime rate in the black community is equal to the crime rate in the non black community, and its just cops profiling and picking on the colored folks than I have no response or arguement to make with that logic.

I am not a racist by stating simple facts, nor is a cop a racist when he defends himself against an attack, and the attacker happens to be colored.

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Ninteen arrests, kinda makes profiling easy, which is the number this kid had.

If you think the crime rate in the black community is equal to the crime rate in the non black community, and its just cops profiling and picking on the colored folks than I have no response or arguement to make with that logic.

I am not a racist by stating simple facts, nor is a cop a racist when he defends himself against an attack, and the attacker happens to be colored.

It only makes profiling easy if you know what a person with 19 arrests looks like. If I showed you pictures of 1000 people, could you tell me those that have 5+ arrests?

What is a "black community"? I would suggest the crime rate in a low income community isn't equal to the crime in a high income community, regardless of the color of the skin of the offenders. Perhaps you should contemplate why you think it's the color of skin that matters in terms of crime and not another aspect of the community.

It can be, however, racist to attempt to use facts to correlate that a specific person is part of those statistics. This is what caused the prosecution towards the Duke lacrosse players, the GZ arrest, and all sorts of studies that indicate officers will shoot black people quicker in simulations.

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I profile people EVERY day and I'm not going to apologize for it.  When an 1976 four door rust bucket comes down my driveway, I'm fairly certain I will react differently than if a 2014 Yukon rolls down my driveway.  I will also react differently when I see a group of people standing around in the mall wearing their pants on backwards and wearing bandana's than when i see a group of people standing around in suits, ties, and wing tip shoes.  If you don't understand the reasons I profile people, then you are destined to eventually find out for yourself .........the hard way.

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The "narrative" certainly contributed to people walking the streets of NY chanting they wanted dead cops and they wanted that now.
 
THAT likely contributed to some lunatic deciding today would be a good day to "give some pigs wings".

Anyone that would make an excuse for the  actions of the likes of Al Sharpton and the hate and racism it causes that contribute to something like this is a "hyper partisan" fool.

The entire reason people use things like this in the manner Obama, Holder, Sharpton do  is for personal or political gain.

The more of this BS they can incite and stir up the more relevant they believe they become.

Great, and the diagrams created by Palin "contributed" to the assault on Giffords and the deaths of others. The rhetoric by right-wing Republican, conservatives during the 90s "contributed" to the deaths in Okalhoma City at the hands of McVeigh...

No. The narrative by protestors didn't contribute to anything to the tragic deaths of these two officers. The words of Obama, Holder, De Blaiso, etc. didn't cause this asshole to shoot the two cops. The only one to blame is the shooter. Anything after that is hyperpartisan bullshit.

Your logic ends in with the assumption that YOU have now contributed to further police abuses against the law abiding and those that wish to peacefully protest. Congrats on furthering the contributions that degrade our society...

Personally I disagree with that logic and don't think your posts contribute to anything that assholes may decide to do.

Then you have no clue about the dynamics of mob mentality and behavior. 

You are like most other liberals today, backtracking as fast as possible. Yes the shooter is to blame but so are the protesters and political agitators. 


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I see johnr and kdm get it quincy,your behind the curve...Just sayin~Gotta add Garfield as well,well said guyz~

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I profile people EVERY day and I'm not going to apologize for it.  When an 1976 four door rust bucket comes down my driveway, I'm fairly certain I will react differently than if a 2014 Yukon rolls down my driveway.  I will also react differently when I see a group of people standing around in the mall wearing their pants on backwards and wearing bandana's than when i see a group of people standing around in suits, ties, and wing tip shoes.  If you don't understand the reasons I profile people, then you are destined to eventually find out for yourself .........the hard way.

Right on.

Everyone profiles and everyone discriminates, even this Quincy idiot even if he does not admit it. It is a good thing as you say. It is a human thing and a natural thing.

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Ninteen arrests, kinda makes profiling easy, which is the number this kid had.

If you think the crime rate in the black community is equal to the crime rate in the non black community, and its just cops profiling and picking on the colored folks than I have no response or arguement to make with that logic.

I am not a racist by stating simple facts, nor is a cop a racist when he defends himself against an attack, and the attacker happens to be colored.

It only makes profiling easy if you know what a person with 19 arrests looks like. If I showed you pictures of 1000 people, could you tell me those that have 5+ arrests?

What is a "black community"? I would suggest the crime rate in a low income community isn't equal to the crime in a high income community, regardless of the color of the skin of the offenders. Perhaps you should contemplate why you think it's the color of skin that matters in terms of crime and not another aspect of the community.

It can be, however, racist to attempt to use facts to correlate that a specific person is part of those statistics. This is what caused the prosecution towards the Duke lacrosse players, the GZ arrest, and all sorts of studies that indicate officers will shoot black people quicker in simulations.

Ask Sharpton, Obama and Holder about the 'black community'. After all they are ones using the term all the time. It is liberals that label people and self identify into all your little trampled on 'communities' be the gay and lesbian community, black community or whatever 'victimized' bunch that is the flavor of the week.

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Then you have no clue about the dynamics of mob mentality and behavior. 

You are like most other liberals today, backtracking as fast as possible. Yes the shooter is to blame but so are the protesters and political agitators. 


And you have no clue about correlation and causation.

Hahaha, you are like most liberals when Gabby Giffords got shot and when the Federal building was bombed in OKC. Quit the hypcrisy. Protestors and political agitators are not to blame for an asshole shooting some cops. Just as pro-cop racists aren't at fault for the shooting of Gurley; the asshole cop is.

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I see johnr and kdm get it quincy,your behind the curve...Just sayin~

"You're"... just saying

And no, black people aren't the problem. Take that crap to stormfront.

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