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I am an avid Netflix Documentary watcher, and I saw one lastnight called Religulious by Bill Maher. I know religion is a touchy subject, but hoyl smokes, does this ever bring some light to a very taboo topic. I recommend watching it.

Has anyone seen any other good ones? Street Thief is another really good one!

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 Religulious is a great documentary.  I bought it on a whim when it came out and didn't regret it.

"Pulling John" is another great one!  It's an armwrestling documentary and I highly recommend it.

"CHIEFS" was on there a while back.  Not sure if it still is, but it is a documentary about a Wyoming Blackfeet Reservation high school basketball team.  Very good.

"The March of the Penguins"  life of penguins, really good actually

"Restropo"  US soldiers

I am sure there is more that I can't think of right now.  Keep 'em coming people, I love documentaries also.

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 Im going to watch it tonight

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Bill Maher is a major league douche.

 

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"THE WONDER WHITES OF WEST VIRGINIA"  its a must see

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guywhofishes Said:
Bill Maher is a major league douche.

I couldnt agree more. Infact I think he is the MVP in that catagorie

Neat

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WONDERFUL WHITES........My bad.     

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WONDERFUL WHITES........My bad.     

Havent seen it all but have caught a bit of it on some of the movie channels, goofy stuff there i do wanna catch the whole thing though. Also "Catfish" is one the of the wierdest things I have ever seen. It has nothing to do with fishing in any way. Definitely worth it if you like comically creepy people.

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guywhofishes Said:
Bill Maher is a major league douche.

Anything by Michael Moore is worse. He is number one on my list of "people I wouldn't mind going to jail for beacuse I sucker punched them".  

Is it impious to weigh goose music and art in the same scales? I think not, because the true hunter is merely a noncreative artist. Who painted the first picture on a bone in the caves of France? A hunter. Who alone in our modern life so thrills to the sight of living beauty that he will endure hunger and thirst and cold to feed his eye upon it? The hunter. Who wrote the great hunter's poem about the sheer wonder of the wind, the hail, and the snow, the stars, the lightnings, and the clouds, the lion, the deer, and the wild goat, the raven, the hawk, and the eagle, and above all the eulogy to the horse? Job, one of the great dramatic artists of all time. Poets sing and hunters scale the mountains primarily for one and the same reason--the thrill of beauty. Critics write and hunters outwit their game primarily for one and the same reason--to reduce that beauty to possession. The differences are largely matters of degree, consciousness, and that sly arbiter of the classification of human activities, language. If, then, we can live without goose music, we may as well do away with stars, or sunsets, or Iliads. But the point is we would be fools to do away with any of them. 

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WONDERFUL WHITES........My bad.     

This is the craziest / funniest / saddest docu. ive ever watched. I cant believe people live like that!

Restrepo is a really good one about US troops 

 

 "I get what you're saying:  Like a sausage replica featuring a Polander holding a sacred illumination device." 

 

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 Religulious is a great documentary.  I bought it on a whim when it came out and didn't regret it.

"Pulling John" is another great one!  It's an armwrestling documentary and I highly recommend it.

"CHIEFS" was on there a while back.  Not sure if it still is, but it is a documentary about a Wyoming Blackfeet Reservation high school basketball team.  Very good.

"The March of the Penguins"  life of penguins, really good actually

"Restropo"  US soldiers

I am sure there is more that I can't think of right now.  Keep 'em coming people, I love documentaries also.

I've seen all of these besides Chiefs. I love the variety of docu's you can see on netflix.

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Bill Maher is a major league douche.

I couldnt agree more. Infact I think he is the MVP in that catagorie

You guys can not like Bill, but he doesn't even say much in this film. The radical religious figures say it all. They back themselves into a corner, and can't get out. Religion is a funny thing, it is a great attribute when everyone is positive, but as soon as the questions get tough, then everyone becomes defensive, and questions why someone would ever questions 'their god'. Bill Maher just expoilts those people, and they out themselves. He even gets a someone from the Vatican to admit that a majority of what happens there is contrary to 'God's Word'.

Hate him if you want, but check out the documentary, if it doesn't make you realize how hindering religion is on the global growth, then you are too nieve to even notice it happening in your own hometown.

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How hindering religion is on global growth? Please do enlighten us to what that even means.

 

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wouldnt buy or otherwise support anything that has fingerprint of either maher or moore. both are scum imho.

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Bill maher is a total tool, however, religulous was pretty impressive.  he didn't really take side to anything or puke out his own opinions for 2 hours. just asked simple questions and let the nutjobs do the talking.

Checkout Chosin on netflix or the universe (tons of episodes) & into the universe with stephen hawking.

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killin-em-softly Said:

johnr Said:

guywhofishes Said:
Bill Maher is a major league douche.

I couldnt agree more. Infact I think he is the MVP in that catagorie

You guys can not like Bill, but he doesn't even say much in this film. The radical religious figures say it all. They back themselves into a corner, and can't get out. Religion is a funny thing, it is a great attribute when everyone is positive, but as soon as the questions get tough, then everyone becomes defensive, and questions why someone would ever questions 'their god'. Bill Maher just expoilts those people, and they out themselves. He even gets a someone from the Vatican to admit that a majority of what happens there is contrary to 'God's Word'.

Hate him if you want, but check out the documentary, if it doesn't make you realize how hindering religion is on the global growth, then you are too nieve to even notice it happening in your own hometown.

Maher blows the biggest, nastiest goats.  If some one speaks 10 sentences he will cut and paste them to make those folks sound like he wants them to.  Not too hard to figure that one out.  He is the douchiest of douche.

"Diligence is the mother of good luck."

"The constitution only gives people the right to pursue hapiness.  You have to catch it yourself."

"Well done is better than well said."

"Beer is living proof that God loves us and wants us to be happy."

All by:  Benjamin Franklin.

"The solution to any problem - work, love, money, whatever - is to go fishing, and the bigger the problem, the longer the trip should be."

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How hindering religion is on global growth? Please do enlighten us to what that even means.

well, 90% of the wars would have never happened for starters.

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Bill maher is a total tool, however, religulous was pretty impressive.  he didn't really take side to anything or puke out his own opinions for 2 hours. just asked simple questions and let the nutjobs do the talking.

Checkout Chosin on netflix or the universe (tons of episodes) & into the universe with stephen hawking.

These are cool I would recommend them as well.

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and yes...michael moore deserves an inoperable brain tumor.

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WONDERFUL WHITES........My bad.     

This one is crazy.

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killin-em-softly Said:

johnr Said:

guywhofishes Said:
Bill Maher is a major league douche.

I couldnt agree more. Infact I think he is the MVP in that catagorie

You guys can not like Bill, but he doesn't even say much in this film. The radical religious figures say it all. They back themselves into a corner, and can't get out. Religion is a funny thing, it is a great attribute when everyone is positive, but as soon as the questions get tough, then everyone becomes defensive, and questions why someone would ever questions 'their god'. Bill Maher just expoilts those people, and they out themselves. He even gets a someone from the Vatican to admit that a majority of what happens there is contrary to 'God's Word'.

Hate him if you want, but check out the documentary, if it doesn't make you realize how hindering religion is on the global growth, then you are too nieve to even notice it happening in your own hometown.

Maher blows the biggest, nastiest goats.  If some one speaks 10 sentences he will cut and paste them to make those folks sound like he wants them to.  Not too hard to figure that one out.  He is the douchiest of douche.

In the case of "Religulous" I almost wish you were right.

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Bill maher is a total tool, however, religulous was pretty impressive.  he didn't really take side to anything or puke out his own opinions for 2 hours. just asked simple questions and let the nutjobs do the talking.

Checkout Chosin on netflix or the universe (tons of episodes) & into the universe with stephen hawking.

These are cool I would recommend them as well.

nova, the universe, into the universe and nova science now are my favorites.  the kid is constantly bitching at me cause the dvr is full of "protected" episodes of the above.  my hope is someday he will "see the light" and decide to actually watch a few of the episodes and get hooked.  but, he is only 11.  so, that might be kind of wishful thinking at this point. 

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and a bill maher fan or not (me not)... a guy has to watch religulous.  give it a try captain... you don't need to change your opinion on maher... just watch and listen w/ an open mind.  its rather entlightening.  at the end of the day, you might be able to say you learned something and there will be nothing stopping you from still referring to him as the douchiest of the douches.  lol. 

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How hindering religion is on global growth? Please do enlighten us to what that even means.

Let me start by saying I don't want anyone to get butt hurt over this, but it is undisputable that religion is a global deterrent pertaining to growth. Look at the Muslim’s for example (only as an example). The Koran states that all non-believers are considered infidels, and that they should be wiped clean from the earth, or conform to Islam and Muslim ideals. This is mostly the same for Christians and other religions as well. The very first commandment states that you shall have no other gods, this seems a little possessive and jealous to me. The link between country and religion is another hindrance that the US has fallen victim too as well. We are in no way any better than Iraq, Iran or N Korea in the way we handle our business (besides the fact that it is ‘our way’). How can this type of ignorance be good for global growth, or economic expansion??? Let me ask you that question???

Religion is opportune for people of misfortune.  It is an outlet for people who are placed in a dead-end with no alternative (i.e. prisoners, soldiers in a foxhole or someone who has been faced with an adverse circumstance), however it is an unnecessary hindrance and an unfortunate misleading of the common people to believe or preach that at one point on this earth there was only 2 people, one talking snake, a forbidden tree of fruit and the virgin Mary.

There was no physical witness that documented the sightings and actions of Jesus. It was passed on though generations, and then eventually documented into what is now known as The Holy Bible. But, how many versions of the Holy Bible are there these days? Over 25… Sounds a little fishy to me…

How many times have your fishing stories been twisted from one of your buddies to the next, and by the time you hear it again, you don’t even recognize it.

I grew up in the Church, and just started my research just over 3 months ago pertaining to religion. The Catholic Church turned me into an information junky, and I have been very interested in what I have found. The church is a business, and they have the best clients in the world. Clients that are passed down from generation to generation just like those who favor John Deere tractors, or Chevrolet Pickups. The only difference is that the Catholic (Religious) Clients are paying for a service that has never been PROVEN.

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and a bill maher fan or not (me not)... a guy has to watch religulous.  give it a try captain... you don't need to change your opinion on maher... just watch and listen w/ an open mind.  its rather entlightening.  at the end of the day, you might be able to say you learned something and there will be nothing stopping you from still referring to him as the douchiest of the douches.  lol. 

I agree. I don't like Maher, but he doesn't even talk in the docu, he is letting everyone else do it for him. I thought it was very well put togeather. It add's a sense of humor to the darker, unspoken sections of religion.

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I'm not a huge documentary fan. They often are one-sided and can easily be manipulated to endorse the director or creators beliefs or agendas. While basing your documentary on factual data can open the viewers eyes to an event or topic, the director can then also choose to leave out other pertinent data that contradicts the direction on how they want their story to unfold. Due to this reason I see documentarys as very bias and a partially unreliable source for information.

On the other hand however, I have watched Planet earth documentaries and while some of the information conveyed often has a slightly detectable agenda I do find them very informative and entertaining. I guess it's all in how you present the data.


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How hindering religion is on global growth? Please do enlighten us to what that even means.

well, 90% of the wars would have never happened for starters.

Bingo! We also have more free trade between nations, and Oh one more thing, we wouldn't have 550,000 troops in Afganistan right now fighting over the fact that we are "infidels".

...Just for starts...

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I love how everyone points at the muslim religion for being the psycho violent one.  Many forget what happened in Ireland so recently between catholics & protestants.

The only thing factual about december 25th is that almost all civilizations before our celebration of "jesus" also celebrated it as some form of holy day.  Many of which also celebrated it as the birth of a worshipped figure. (i.e. Horus)  the reasoning behind this is it is the first day of the visible new year.  Dec. 25th is the first day you can visibly notice the days getting longer.

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I don't ever force religious views on anyone and I can understand how you guys can be sarcastic or cynical about it. With that said, I will tell you what I take from religion. First, I am catholic and historians don't dispute that there was once a man named Jesus and he changed the way people thought about things in a good way. His teachings are far diferent then old testament teachings. He preached love, respect, forgiveness and tolerance. Those are good things no matter who you are. So my take on it is that if you use religion to guide you to perform good works and have good will toward your fellow man, than there is absolutely nothing wrong with that. Not even atheists can dispute that,  less they want to look like a fool.

Is it impious to weigh goose music and art in the same scales? I think not, because the true hunter is merely a noncreative artist. Who painted the first picture on a bone in the caves of France? A hunter. Who alone in our modern life so thrills to the sight of living beauty that he will endure hunger and thirst and cold to feed his eye upon it? The hunter. Who wrote the great hunter's poem about the sheer wonder of the wind, the hail, and the snow, the stars, the lightnings, and the clouds, the lion, the deer, and the wild goat, the raven, the hawk, and the eagle, and above all the eulogy to the horse? Job, one of the great dramatic artists of all time. Poets sing and hunters scale the mountains primarily for one and the same reason--the thrill of beauty. Critics write and hunters outwit their game primarily for one and the same reason--to reduce that beauty to possession. The differences are largely matters of degree, consciousness, and that sly arbiter of the classification of human activities, language. If, then, we can live without goose music, we may as well do away with stars, or sunsets, or Iliads. But the point is we would be fools to do away with any of them. 

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I love how everyone points at the muslim religion for being the psycho violent one.  Many forget what happened in Ireland so recently between catholics & protestants.

The only thing factual about december 25th is that almost all civilizations before our celebration of "jesus" also celebrated it as some form of holy day.  Many of which also celebrated it as the birth of a worshipped figure. (i.e. Horus)  the reasoning behind this is it is the first day of the visible new year.  Dec. 25th is the first day you can visibly notice the days getting longer.

I'm not "calling out" the Muslims. All religions are guilty. Look at how "Different" Mormans are... One of their belifes says that Jesus himself vistied the Americas? Where is this at in the Christian Bible.

I can see your argument for Dec 25th coinsidentaly being the same birthdate as all the other metiterranean gods before jesus, but what about the other 'similarities' between the christian leader and Horus? They virtually did the same thing, except Horus was "born???"  well before jesus.

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First off I will admit straight up I have not watched the Maher film on religion. Do not have much time for either his or Moores self serving "documentaries" .   Nor am I what I would consider an extremely "religious" person, but I have a very strong "faith". This faith is not a result of religious  "preaching", but by watching some people actually  live their lives.

I am curious from those that have watched Mahers film if their was any interpretation or examples of religion from those quiet majority involved in religion that are not "nut jobs"????

We all know the fire and brimstone religion fanatics, but we also know the quiet, humble, put others first people who have devoted their life to THEIR interpretations of the religion they practice that are UNQUESTIONABLY a positie to society and the people they impact.

I find often times it seems the  driveby, often times left wing, condemnation of religion as a whole is often times somewhat selfserving and self excusing in nature.Indeed just as in any and all segments of life, religion has those who will use it for selfserving purposes, as will those condemning it.

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I don't ever force religious views on anyone and I can understand how you guys can be sarcastic or cynical about it. With that said, I will tell you what I take from religion. First, I am catholic and historians don't dispute that there was once a man named Jesus and he changed the way people thought about things in a good way. His teachings are far diferent then old testament teachings. He preached love, respect, forgiveness and tolerance. Those are good things no matter who you are. So my take on it is that if you use religion to guide you to perform good works and have good will toward your fellow man, than there is absolutely nothing wrong with that. Not even atheists can dispute that,  less they want to look like a fool.

Agreed! Live the way your god lived his life, but don't mirror it, because some of what happened in 20 B.C. or 20 A.D.  is no longer relivant in today's society.

Well put Meelosh. I'm 100% with you on that one.

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First off I will admit straight up I have not watched the Maher film on religion. Do not have much time for either his or Moores self serving "documentaries" .   Nor am I what I would consider an extremely "religious" person, but I have a very strong "faith". This faith is not a result of religious  "preaching", but by watching some people actually  live their lives.

I am curious from those that have watched Mahers film if their was any interpretation or examples of religion from those quiet majority involved in religion that are not "nut jobs"????

We all know the fire and brimstone religion fanatics, but we also know the quiet, humble, put others first people who have devoted their life to THEIR interpretations of the religion they practice that are UNQUESTIONABLY a positie to society and the people they impact.

I find often times it seems the  driveby, often times left wing, condemnation of religion as a whole is often times somewhat selfserving and self excusing in nature.Indeed just as in any and all segments of life, religion has those who will use it for selfserving purposes, as will those condemning it.

I don't recall seeing any fanatics of any religion. There are some players in the mass-media side of religion that Maher players like a fiddle, but for the most part, he visits normal people to talk with them about religion. Hell, he even went to a church at a truck stop that held services in the back of a 18 wheeler! That was good stuff.

I'm not trying to change anyone's opinion on the matter, i'm in no way deticated enough, nor do I care enough what other people belive. To each their own. I just thought it was a good opportunity to pass on some good information, because I myself have been on a never ending search for info on this matter for the past 1/4 year.

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How hindering religion is on global growth? Please do enlighten us to what that even means.

Let me start by saying I don't want anyone to get butt hurt over this, but it is undisputable that religion is a global deterrent pertaining to growth. Look at the Muslim’s for example (only as an example). The Koran states that all non-believers are considered infidels, and that they should be wiped clean from the earth, or conform to Islam and Muslim ideals. This is mostly the same for Christians and other religions as well. The very first commandment states that you shall have no other gods, this seems a little possessive and jealous to me. The link between country and religion is another hindrance that the US has fallen victim too as well. We are in no way any better than Iraq, Iran or N Korea in the way we handle our business (besides the fact that it is ‘our way’). How can this type of ignorance be good for global growth, or economic expansion??? Let me ask you that question???

Religion is opportune for people of misfortune.  It is an outlet for people who are placed in a dead-end with no alternative (i.e. prisoners, soldiers in a foxhole or someone who has been faced with an adverse circumstance), however it is an unnecessary hindrance and an unfortunate misleading of the common people to believe or preach that at one point on this earth there was only 2 people, one talking snake, a forbidden tree of fruit and the virgin Mary.

There was no physical witness that documented the sightings and actions of Jesus. It was passed on though generations, and then eventually documented into what is now known as The Holy Bible. But, how many versions of the Holy Bible are there these days? Over 25… Sounds a little fishy to me…

How many times have your fishing stories been twisted from one of your buddies to the next, and by the time you hear it again, you don’t even recognize it.

I grew up in the Church, and just started my research just over 3 months ago pertaining to religion. The Catholic Church turned me into an information junky, and I have been very interested in what I have found. The church is a business, and they have the best clients in the world. Clients that are passed down from generation to generation just like those who favor John Deere tractors, or Chevrolet Pickups. The only difference is that the Catholic (Religious) Clients are paying for a service that has never been PROVEN.

So exactly how do you know they have not "been proven"???

Hey I get how many religions are desgned for the self preservation and continueation of the religion itself. Man has had his impact on religion to drive it to these thingsmentioned. But how does one know wether religion "works" or does not "work"?
 
If I live my life adhereing to a set of standards I beleive will get me to a better place in life or after life, how do you know they will not? How do you know this has not made my life better?

If the soldier in a foxhole or prisoner in a cell finds the comfort in his religious beleifs to be at ease with his life and what lies after it, how do you know the value of religion has not been proven?

Some of the most content people I know in life and religion are not  "people of misfortune" nor are they existing in a "dead end" with no alternative. They are simply people that have a stong faith in beleiving if they live their life holding to a standard they accept as their God's teaching their life will be better and something better awaits them after their life here.

So how do you know this is not PROVEN?

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First off I will admit straight up I have not watched the Maher film on religion. Do not have much time for either his or Moores self serving "documentaries" .   Nor am I what I would consider an extremely "religious" person, but I have a very strong "faith". This faith is not a result of religious  "preaching", but by watching some people actually  live their lives.

I am curious from those that have watched Mahers film if their was any interpretation or examples of religion from those quiet majority involved in religion that are not "nut jobs"????

We all know the fire and brimstone religion fanatics, but we also know the quiet, humble, put others first people who have devoted their life to THEIR interpretations of the religion they practice that are UNQUESTIONABLY a positie to society and the people they impact.

I find often times it seems the  driveby, often times left wing, condemnation of religion as a whole is often times somewhat selfserving and self excusing in nature.Indeed just as in any and all segments of life, religion has those who will use it for selfserving purposes, as will those condemning it.

I don't recall seeing any fanatics of any religion. There are some players in the mass-media side of religion that Maher players like a fiddle, but for the most part, he visits normal people to talk with them about religion. Hell, he even went to a church at a truck stop that held services in the back of a 18 wheeler! That was good stuff.

I'm not trying to change anyone's opinion on the matter, i'm in no way deticated enough, nor do I care enough what other people belive. To each their own. I just thought it was a good opportunity to pass on some good information, because I myself have been on a never ending search for info on this matter for the past 1/4 year.

Hmmm.... You have researched this for 3 months using sources such as Bill Maher for educational purposes...get back to me in 2000 years.

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First off I will admit straight up I have not watched the Maher film on religion. Do not have much time for either his or Moores self serving "documentaries" .   Nor am I what I would consider an extremely "religious" person, but I have a very strong "faith". This faith is not a result of religious  "preaching", but by watching some people actually  live their lives.

I am curious from those that have watched Mahers film if their was any interpretation or examples of religion from those quiet majority involved in religion that are not "nut jobs"????

We all know the fire and brimstone religion fanatics, but we also know the quiet, humble, put others first people who have devoted their life to THEIR interpretations of the religion they practice that are UNQUESTIONABLY a positie to society and the people they impact.

I find often times it seems the  driveby, often times left wing, condemnation of religion as a whole is often times somewhat selfserving and self excusing in nature.Indeed just as in any and all segments of life, religion has those who will use it for selfserving purposes, as will those condemning it.

I don't recall seeing any fanatics of any religion. There are some players in the mass-media side of religion that Maher players like a fiddle, but for the most part, he visits normal people to talk with them about religion. Hell, he even went to a church at a truck stop that held services in the back of a 18 wheeler! That was good stuff.

I'm not trying to change anyone's opinion on the matter, i'm in no way deticated enough, nor do I care enough what other people belive. To each their own. I just thought it was a good opportunity to pass on some good information, because I myself have been on a never ending search for info on this matter for the past 1/4 year.

Hmmm.... You have researched this for 3 months using sources such as Bill Maher for educational purposes...get back to me in 2000 years.

I watched this for entertainment value. If you are a faith man, or religious by any means, you are following a book that is 2000+ years old that has never once been validated, and in fact has been proven incorrect more than anything. Why do you think that 93% of all scientists do not beleive in religion? Because they are stupid? I think not...

Even if I did use comedian as a reference, how is that any worse or any better than a christian using the Bible as a daily reference to live their lives? The bible has never (I repeat, NEVER) been validated, therefore, it holds no validity in my eyes. To each their own. 

No hard feelings, just an interesting topic IMHO. 

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 I have read and or watched several pieces that have proved much of what is written the Bible to be true. The New Testament is a book more people should read and model their lives after, if more did so this world would be alot better place. To each their own.

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SAY WHAT!!!!!!!!!!?????! WOW!

 

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Most non-believers are non-believers because they consider it an easier way even though they can't see it for that. It sure is easy to live your life according to your own standards. You never have to feel guilty about anything because, hell, this is how I am going to live my life.  I guess the thing I wonder is where exactly those standards came from. Must have been out of thin air.

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the documentary didn't have any fanatics really.  just people and clergy speaking their mind regarding their particular religion.

my 2 cents... religion as a guide to live you life can only be a detriment if taken to the extremes of any chosen religion.  most have similar moral standards and codes that are of great benefit to both individuals and society as a whole.  it is only when you take the train of thought "its my religion or hell and/or death to you" that religion tends to become a detriment to society.  someone spoke above about jesus' teachings of tolerance, kindness, love for everyone, forgiveness, etc... well nobody can argue that living your life by his teachings would be detrimental to society or the individual.  but, even most christians don't do this.  instead they pick and chose what "teachings" they want to follow and then thump their chests about what good christians they are because they go to church and support whatever "church" they belong to at the same time condemning those who don't belong to the same.  jesus himself is probably pretty ashamed of where "religions" have taken us in this day in age all while invoking his name.  i'd be willing to be he would rather there were no "religions" and/or "churches" as long as everyone followed the simple rules he laid down and paid respects to "their god" on a regular basis... whatever that particular person's vision of "their god" happens to be.

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I see a LOT more generosity of time/$ from my christian friends and co-workers than agnostics and athiests. How odd... Not. Why are Christians so easily thrown under the bus with all the good they do?

 

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Proud pompous Christians are NOT practicing their faith when they do that. That's like saying all fishingbuddy members suck because of the half dozen nasty trolls we have posting. Every barrell has got a few bad apples, even Christianity/churches.

 

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Proud pompous Christians are NOT practicing their faith when they do that. That's like saying all fishingbuddy members suck because of the half dozen nasty trolls we have posting. Every barrell has got a few bad apples, even Christianity/churches.


Are you talking about me again?

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gst Said:
First off I will admit straight up I have not watched the Maher film on religion. Do not have much time for either his or Moores self serving "documentaries" .   Nor am I what I would consider an extremely "religious" person, but I have a very strong "faith". This faith is not a result of religious  "preaching", but by watching some people actually  live their lives.

I am curious from those that have watched Mahers film if their was any interpretation or examples of religion from those quiet majority involved in religion that are not "nut jobs"????

We all know the fire and brimstone religion fanatics, but we also know the quiet, humble, put others first people who have devoted their life to THEIR interpretations of the religion they practice that are UNQUESTIONABLY a positie to society and the people they impact.

I find often times it seems the  driveby, often times left wing, condemnation of religion as a whole is often times somewhat selfserving and self excusing in nature.Indeed just as in any and all segments of life, religion has those who will use it for selfserving purposes, as will those condemning it.

I don't recall seeing any fanatics of any religion. There are some players in the mass-media side of religion that Maher players like a fiddle, but for the most part, he visits normal people to talk with them about religion. Hell, he even went to a church at a truck stop that held services in the back of a 18 wheeler! That was good stuff.

I'm not trying to change anyone's opinion on the matter, i'm in no way deticated enough, nor do I care enough what other people belive. To each their own. I just thought it was a good opportunity to pass on some good information, because I myself have been on a never ending search for info on this matter for the past 1/4 year.

From an earlier post:

"You guys can not like Bill, but he doesn't even say much in this film. The radical religious figures say it all. They back themselves into a corner, and can't get out."

I guess this was where I formed the terminology I used in my question.

So were these people "radical" or not?

I am still curious how one can catagorically deny the "service" gained from religious beleifs and commitments and the faith that arises from them has not beeen proven?

The very examples you give would question that claim.

If the soldier in the foxhole finds a peace from the fear that is gripping him and gains the courage to go forth has not the "service" of faith based in religion been realized?

If the prisoner in a cell realizes and accepts the act that got him there was wrong and accepts his consequencesand changes his life because of his learning of faith thru religious teachings has not a "service" been realized from religion???

How can you know that a better life awaits you after this one is ended has not been "proven" or "disproven"?
 
I tend to agree with espringers, to much emphasis is placed on what religion one follows rather than the path of Faith one follows.

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Har! No johnr.

 

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Other good ones on Netfilx:
Training Rules:  About Penn State basketball and views on lesbians in Program

Food Inc: Far left view of where our "food comes from" can't say I agree with it, but is entertaining, but will tick you off if you are in the ag related industries

Thanks for starting this topic!

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 I have not seen the Religulious documentary, I will have to look for it.   I have seen the movie Jesus Camp, that is mostly filmed in ND.   Somewhere I read that it is no longer available on netflix.  To me taking these kids and putting the weight of the world on their shoulders along with the brainwashing amounts to child abuse.  

Religion in ones personal life can be a good thing.   When it becomes a crusade to make everyone else believe like you and act the way your religion says to, I have a problem with it.  (ie: mixing politics and religion)   

I sincerely tried religion for a number of years and it failed me miserably.   I am much more content as a non-believer.  I have also done a fair amount of research and  reading over the last couple of years.   Religions effect on people fascinates me.   Maybe some people are wired to believe and some aren't.      

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 I just checked.    Jesus Camp is available on netflix.     Check it out.  

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Check this out.  It's about Flavious Josephus an ancient secular historian.

http://ancienthistory.about.com/od/josephus/g/Josephus.htm

  I find it odd that people may question Josephus, but don't question historians that talk about Socrates, Plato, Cesar etc. 

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TUFFdog Said:
Most non-believers are non-believers because they consider it an easier way even though they can't see it for that. It sure is easy to live your life according to your own standards. You never have to feel guilty about anything because, hell, this is how I am going to live my life.  I guess the thing I wonder is where exactly those standards came from. Must have been out of thin air.

haha, Christianity most certainly did not invent morality. Most of the non believers I know, realize how ridiculous it is to belive, that in the vast history of the world and all of it's different religions and Gods, that Christianity is the one true religion.

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 To me non-believers have to live with their actions.    Believers get to be forgiven.  

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Candiru Said:
 I have not seen the Religulious documentary, I will have to look for it.   I have seen the movie Jesus Camp, that is mostly filmed in ND.   Somewhere I read that it is no longer available on netflix.  To me taking these kids and putting the weight of the world on their shoulders along with the brainwashing amounts to child abuse.  

Religion in ones personal life can be a good thing.   When it becomes a crusade to make everyone else believe like you and act the way your religion says to, I have a problem with it.  (ie: mixing politics and religion)   

I sincerely tried religion for a number of years and it failed me miserably.   I am much more content as a non-believer.  I have also done a fair amount of research and  reading over the last couple of years.   Religions effect on people fascinates me.   Maybe some people are wired to believe and some aren't.      

. I'm  thankful I grew up in a household that decided to let me chose what or what I do not believe.

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