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701FishSlayer Said:
Simple discussions......Impossible since 2009.

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don;t be so hard on yourself.

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don;t be so hard on yourself.

 

 

 

 

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btr, it is because of the constant "hissy fit" you engage in "ridiculing" everyone that holds a differing view on here about maintaining what most people (ND at least) still believe marriage should be that you have shared in past discussions that I have a hard time believing if you were being honest, you would not be happier if a Federal judge over ruled the voters of ND. I have never started a topic on this site concerning gay marriage. I have only responded to other posts after I see arguements that I don't agree with. There is a difference between disagreeing with the peoples decision 10 years ago, and the process. 

It is because a small number of people throw "hissy fits" "ridiculing" others beliefs and demanding theirs be accepted that these discussions even take place. When your beliefs affect law and the reasons behind the beliefs don't hold water, you can expect people to disagree with them. 

Perhaps if gay guys would just stick to doing each others hair and arguing over which dinnerware pattern they want and less time "ridiculing" others beliefs, these "hissy fits" wouldn't be an issue.
The same could be said for the anti gay marriage supporters. The difference here is that anti gay marriage supporters are not losing any rights, and the same sex supporters are seeking to gain rights.  
So why would that particular passage make you stop reading svnmags article? Because I laughted out loud when I read it. 

btr, I do not believe I said you have "started" a topic on this site regarding gay marriage as you suggest in the 1st underlined statement. I never suggested you said anything. I made a statement. 

You have how ever "engaged" in them condemning and "ridiculing" those that believe in traditional marriage. Yes. When I see things that I don't agree with or things that are just plain wrong, I respond. Not really any different than what you do on this site quite often during random ag related debates. You come across as though no one has the right to argue against the views of anti gay marriage supporters. 

btr, your claiming the "reasons" behind ND laws governing marriage that  you reference in the 2nd underlined statement as not "holding water" are really nothing more than your opinion you wish to force onto the voters of ND. Not holding water as in there is no legitimate valid reason to deny same sex couples marriage. I'm more so weighing the reasons to deny gays marriage against the reasons to allow gays to marry. 

btr the 3rd underlined statement is simply so much bullshit.  What rights are you losing by allowing ed and ted to get married?

Most on here have said they have no problem with the state granting the "right" of the civil union to allow the very same "rights" as allowed by traditional marriage outside of the title of it being a marriage which in itself is NOT a "right". Civil union is a second class status.

And btr, had you not stopped reading svnmags article when you did, perhaps you would have read the very next statement.

"Institutions of civilization which create a natural counterweight to the collectivist state, but which cannot immediately be destroyed, must be infiltrated and undermined from within."

It is a tactic as old as history itself. We are watching it transpire in this nation as we speak.

But your fellow leftists of course do not wish to admit they are willing to go this far.

But a lack of honesty hardly offsets the actions and intents themselves.

Don't believe it?

Explain why, when there is an acceptance to allow a civil union which would grant the very same "rights" as one has under a marriage EXCEPT the title (which as I said earlier in and of itself is NOT a "right" ) the leftist gay progressive activist is not satisfied unless they have infiltrated and undermined the very title of which traditional marriage has been held for centuries? See my above statement. As for your traditional marriage, you realize marriage has changed numerous times throughout history?

 

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no GST, in my opinion, even though it has been prcaticed and legal in other places and times I do not think any man or woman over 18 should be able to marry or have sex with a 13 year old.

still has nothing to do with gay people.

Multi, thanks for finally answering a question.

Now unfortunately from your comments there are a couple more for you.

Where have I ever equated pedophilia to gay people?

I have not. Please stop inferring I have as it is a lie.

If you have followed along in other threads, I have pretty steadfastly brought up the marriage laws as this is what this is all about, laws regulating who can be married.

And now it comes down to this.

If YOU wish to be able to maintain YOUR ideals on the AGE of marriage even though other states have clearly written laws not in accordance with your views, why then should I or any other person not be able to hold to our ideals about marriage being between a man and a woman despite what other states have done in this regard?

If this is you making your point....it's pretty weak sauce

call it what you wish multi.

The fact remains from your own words in this thread, you condemn others for their beliefs in what the laws governing marriage should allow regarding sexual orientation, yet demand others should follow YOUR beliefs in what the laws governing marriage should allow when it comes to age even though several states disagree with you.

I would offer up most people here would call that being a hypocrite.

There isn't much hypocrisy in condemning another's belief when that belief lacks the merit of the other person's belief. This is why same sex marriage has gained the support of most Americans(yeah, I know you guys don't believe the polls). Same sex marriage supporters have made their case, and more and more people are agreeing with it because of the points that have been made. 

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 Gst, assuming this was accurate, what are your thoughts?

http://sayanythingblog.com/entry/north-dakota-projected-to-have-majority-support-for-gay-marriage-within-a-decade/



At the New York Times, polling guru Nate Silver has a fascinating post about changing attitudes toward gay marriage in the various states.

Here’s his chart for North Dakota (click the link to see the full chart), showing percentage support for gay marriage in 2008, 2012, 2016 and 2020. As you can see, by 2020 Silver is projecting strong majority support for gay marriage in North Dakota. In fact, by 2020 Silver sees only six states with majority opposition to gay marriage.

 

gaymarriagenorthdakota

 

This is why opposition to gay marriage is a loser issue for Republicans and conservatives. This is why Senator Heitkamp decided to stop dodging questions about her position on gay marriage and come out in support. Attitudes are changing, and by the time Heitkamp is on the ballot again this isn’t going to be an issue that hurts her.

This is also why I oppose expanding North Dakota’s existing protected classes to include homosexuals. Not only am I not convinced that discrimination against gays is a major problem now based on the data, but as society’s attitudes change about gay marriage and gays in general it’s going to become even less of a problem.

Increasingly, Americans are finding themselves more accepting of homosexuals. That’s a good thing.

In related news, here’s Chris Berg providing some analysis for Heitkamp’s gay marriage announcement, pointing out that her decision was absolutely political:

 

 

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So, there is an average of 819 pages in the Christian Bible...there are 20,000 pages of Obamocare.  You guys argue about the bible and yet I highly doubt anyone of you has read it.  I have, each and every single page, every single day.  Man and woman are to lie next to each other not woman and woman or man and man...that's it.  If woman and woman or man and man want to do this then that is their deal, not ours to judge.  In the bible you don't fight evil with evil...that is why Jesus died for humanity. 

I threw in the 20,000 pages of Obamacare because you have people arguing about the bible and you have people arguing about Barack Obama.  Those same people that are arguing about the bible are the same people that are arguing about Obamocare.  To those people I would like to give the advise that maybe you should start reading.  It took me 2 weeks to read the bible the 1st time...it is going to take me a lifetime to understand it...I'm 5000 pages into Obamocare, not so bad so far.

This website is about fishing moreso than hunting or am I wrong?  Each and everyone of us has our flaws and stupid moments but we all love the outdoors.  Each and everyone of us would give the shirt off of our backs if the chance was presented to us or am I wrong?

Fishing is exactly what it is, being in that exact moment, doesn't matter if you are catching but feeling that wind on your face, being able to feel that 30 below wind on your hands, bucking snow drifts on the lake.  Fishing is an essence of life for those of us that get it.  Those smells in the early spring mornings, smelling of dirt and early pollen, the smelling of fishy waters and you have that concept and excitement that there are fish here, birds making noise, fish jumping out from you, being in the zone at the moment is what I live for.  Also, my husband being right there with me. 

How about everyone try to post what they love about those moments of fishing that drives them.  How about everyone take that negative bullshit and put it aside and stop calling people names and just love the outdoors.  Being a good person is so much better than being a dipshit.  I know that everyone on this website is a good person and some are lost but may find their way back.

I have not posted anything on this website since 2009...my husband does most of our posting of catching of fish...sometimes he also posts dumb stuff and I love him for that just the same...my husband is straight up outdoors, worked for the Game and Fish briefly as a fisheries aide for the SE ND district out of Jamestown.  He netted 117 lakes and helped stock 15.  He knows the area and when he brings you fishing you are into some good fishing, all I am gonna say about that.  He will bring you fishing in a heartbeat, as long as I can't go with though...only if I am working.

GST, Plainsman, Bobkat, Multi, Let's relax a bit and talk fishing shit..  GST, where do you like to fish? Plainsman where do you like to fish? Bobkat, where do you like to fish?  Multi...I know why you fish. 

, finally someone on here that makes sense...

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no GST, in my opinion, even though it has been prcaticed and legal in other places and times I do not think any man or woman over 18 should be able to marry or have sex with a 13 year old.

still has nothing to do with gay people.

Multi, thanks for finally answering a question.

Now unfortunately from your comments there are a couple more for you.

Where have I ever equated pedophilia to gay people?

I have not. Please stop inferring I have as it is a lie.

If you have followed along in other threads, I have pretty steadfastly brought up the marriage laws as this is what this is all about, laws regulating who can be married.

And now it comes down to this.

If YOU wish to be able to maintain YOUR ideals on the AGE of marriage even though other states have clearly written laws not in accordance with your views, why then should I or any other person not be able to hold to our ideals about marriage being between a man and a woman despite what other states have done in this regard?

If this is you making your point....it's pretty weak sauce

call it what you wish multi.

The fact remains from your own words in this thread, you condemn others for their beliefs in what the laws governing marriage should allow regarding sexual orientation, yet demand others should follow YOUR beliefs in what the laws governing marriage should allow when it comes to age even though several states disagree with you.

I would offer up most people here would call that being a hypocrite.

There isn't much hypocrisy in condemning another's belief when that belief lacks the merit of the other person's belief. This is why same sex marriage has gained the support of most Americans(yeah, I know you guys don't believe the polls). Same sex marriage supporters have made their case, and more and more people are agreeing with it because of the points that have been made. 

You do realize that is only YOUR opinion which is far in the minority here in ND right?

And remember now, it really does not matter what the rest of the nation says as this is a states rights issue correct?

And you do support an individual states right to make their own laws governing marriage right?
 
btr, I have ALWAYS maintained this as a states rights issue and if the voters of ND vote to legalize gay marriage it will become the law in ND.

I will not have to agree with it any more than I agree with the not piling your ducks law, but it will be the law. 
 
And to me there is always something important to discuss when it involves the formation of the laws that govern us whether it is this or ag or anything else. 

If you are not willing to speak out when laws are being formed, don't bitch and whine about them after they are. 
 
Your comment about civil unions being a "second class status" proves it is NOT about gaining the same "rights", but rather taking the traditions and title associated with marriage. 
 
THAT is what so many including myself have an issue with.

As svnmags article said, infiltrating and undermining to gain an agenda.

Gotta go, heading to the perch hole on Darling.

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Plainsman where do you like to fish?

Anywhere there are fish.  I like the outdoors more than fishing and as an old geezer I like the calm sunny days better than the good fishing days.  I hunt more than fish though.

As to the other things I am concerned because in many nations Christians are being killed.  I sincerely believe America is headed that direction.  Just trying to put the brakes on.

As to not judging:  we can leave the unbelievers in their disbelief, but we are to admonish fellow believers in wisdom and love.  Ya, I am another that I think I have read it all, but I jump around.  I am half through going straight through, but for some reason started on the New Testament.  I have about four sometimes five Bible classes a week.  It's good to have Bible scholars explain things for me. 

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Awesome

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no GST, in my opinion, even though it has been prcaticed and legal in other places and times I do not think any man or woman over 18 should be able to marry or have sex with a 13 year old.

still has nothing to do with gay people.

Multi, thanks for finally answering a question.

Now unfortunately from your comments there are a couple more for you.

Where have I ever equated pedophilia to gay people?

I have not. Please stop inferring I have as it is a lie.

If you have followed along in other threads, I have pretty steadfastly brought up the marriage laws as this is what this is all about, laws regulating who can be married.

And now it comes down to this.

If YOU wish to be able to maintain YOUR ideals on the AGE of marriage even though other states have clearly written laws not in accordance with your views, why then should I or any other person not be able to hold to our ideals about marriage being between a man and a woman despite what other states have done in this regard?

If this is you making your point....it's pretty weak sauce

call it what you wish multi.

The fact remains from your own words in this thread, you condemn others for their beliefs in what the laws governing marriage should allow regarding sexual orientation, yet demand others should follow YOUR beliefs in what the laws governing marriage should allow when it comes to age even though several states disagree with you.

I would offer up most people here would call that being a hypocrite.

There isn't much hypocrisy in condemning another's belief when that belief lacks the merit of the other person's belief. This is why same sex marriage has gained the support of most Americans(yeah, I know you guys don't believe the polls). Same sex marriage supporters have made their case, and more and more people are agreeing with it because of the points that have been made. 

You do realize that is only YOUR opinion which is far in the minority here in ND right?

And remember now, it really does not matter what the rest of the nation says as this is a states rights issue correct?

And you do support an individual states right to make their own laws governing marriage right?
 
btr, I have ALWAYS maintained this as a states rights issue and if the voters of ND vote to legalize gay marriage it will become the law in ND.

I will not have to agree with it any more than I agree with the not piling your ducks law, but it will be the law. 
 
And to me there is always something important to discuss when it involves the formation of the laws that govern us whether it is this or ag or anything else. 

If you are not willing to speak out when laws are being formed, don't bitch and whine about them after they are. 
 
Your comment about civil unions being a "second class status" proves it is NOT about gaining the same "rights", but rather taking the traditions and title associated with marriage. 
 
THAT is what so many including myself have an issue with.

As svnmags article said, infiltrating and undermining to gain an agenda.

Gotta go, heading to the perch hole on Darling.

Old people don't like change. Once all the old conservative stubborn people are pooping their diapers/pushing daisys we can get on with the real world. Do as I say, not as I do blah blah blah etc.

 

 

 

 

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Catqueen, good post on fishing, etc... But, this guy has a really tough time believing you have read 5000 pages worth of regulations or proposed regulations associated with obamacare. The actual aca is actually a fraction of that. And to get the # of pages you claim to have read and plan to read, you would have to be spending a whole lot of time reading mumbo jumbo that bares little relevance at all to the actual aca.

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Gst, please don't ignore my question.  

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 Gst, assuming this was accurate, what are your thoughts?

http://sayanythingblog.com/entry/north-dakota-projected-to-have-majority-support-for-gay-marriage-within-a-decade/



At the New York Times, polling guru Nate Silver has a fascinating post about changing attitudes toward gay marriage in the various states.

Here’s his chart for North Dakota (click the link to see the full chart), showing percentage support for gay marriage in 2008, 2012, 2016 and 2020. As you can see, by 2020 Silver is projecting strong majority support for gay marriage in North Dakota. In fact, by 2020 Silver sees only six states with majority opposition to gay marriage.

 

gaymarriagenorthdakota

 

This is why opposition to gay marriage is a loser issue for Republicans and conservatives. This is why Senator Heitkamp decided to stop dodging questions about her position on gay marriage and come out in support. Attitudes are changing, and by the time Heitkamp is on the ballot again this isn’t going to be an issue that hurts her.

This is also why I oppose expanding North Dakota’s existing protected classes to include homosexuals. Not only am I not convinced that discrimination against gays is a major problem now based on the data, but as society’s attitudes change about gay marriage and gays in general it’s going to become even less of a problem.

Increasingly, Americans are finding themselves more accepting of homosexuals. That’s a good thing.

In related news, here’s Chris Berg providing some analysis for Heitkamp’s gay marriage announcement, pointing out that her decision was absolutely political:

 

 

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I am sure your right BTR that one day all the world will accept gay marriage.  The Bible tells us how corrupt the world will become in the end. 

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espringers Said:
Catqueen, good post on fishing, etc... But, this guy has a really tough time believing you have read 5000 pages worth of regulations or proposed regulations associated with obamacare. The actual aca is actually a fraction of that. And to get the # of pages you claim to have read and plan to read, you would have to be spending a whole lot of time reading mumbo jumbo that bares little relevance at all to the actual aca.

Depends on how you count and what regulations you count. The ACA may not be that long but the corresponding regulations published in CFR are according to some sources more than 9,000 pages.

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Gst, please don't ignore my question.  

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Sorry can't get rid of Rob's photo.

btr, please read the answer I gave a page back.

"btr, I have ALWAYS maintained this as a states rights issue and if the voters of ND vote to legalize gay marriage it will become the law in ND.

I will not have to agree with it any more than I agree with the not piling your ducks law, but it will be the law."

Now if this is your question that you feel my answer did not answer, let me try once again.

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 Gst, assuming this was accurate, what are your thoughts?

first of all, I would question whether Mr. Nate Silver "polling guru for the New York Times" and CBS news has as good a handle on the views of ND as they may claim. So your question's starting question might very well blow a hole thru this whole theory especially when anyone can get any poll to get the results they wish.

Post the questions and demographics of the poll and then how about we see if Mr. Silver himself is gay.

If indeed this poll comes to be in 10 years ND has a gay marriage law, please reread my original answer.

So now btr, how about answering one in return.

Given you have admitted it is not about equality of rights thru a civil union, but rather infiltrating and undermining of the traditional title.

Would it dismay you to see a Federal court, say the SCOTUS, rule that gay marriage must be legal in all states even if ND was the last state in the union to legalize it?

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 GST I forgot what your thoughts on teh gay marriage is. Don't remember what your stance is. Do you support it or not, serious question.

 

 

 

 

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 Would gay people make a tradeoff? Agree to never hold a gay march again if they are allowed the rights they seek?

 

 

 

 

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"GST, Plainsman, Bobkat, Multi, Let's relax a bit and talk fishing shit..  GST, where do you like to fish? "

Darling. Thru the ice.

Pretty good day again, me, my oldest son and a friend of his and my 8 year old daughter, 80 10 - 12 inch perch, two walleyes and one northern.  

Lots of laughs, smiles and memories. 

Halfway thru the day the 8 year old was taking her perch off the hook, putting minnows on, setting the depth and assuring me she was NOT a "yuppie girl"!

After she went elbow deep into the water to grab a perch that flipped off I assured her by all means she was NOT a "yuppie girl"!!!

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 I may be wrong... but I think a lot of this a generational... my daughter (26) has openly gay friends that she spends time with... she has friends who are black and brown and some in interracial relationships... she has some that WILL marry when that day comes to our state, and is repulsed by anything she perceives as racism or bigotry... she also believes in God and is a Christian... 
a few weeks ago she was driving with her grandma (brides mom) and they passed a guy all bundled up walking on the sidewalk... her grandma (meaning no disrespect) asked if the guy was a negro... daughter was pist... grandma's a racist... I explained to her that that was the socially acceptable term that was used the last time her grandma probably talked about it... 
I have a lot of questions about gen y... but the one thing I cannot question is their ability to accept what or who people are and leave the judgement up to whatever God they will face... my God says love the sinner, hate the sin... 
props to gen y for this... they are way ahead of where I was at their age... I'm gonna follow their lead on this one... 

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my God says love the sinner, hate the sin... 

I agree.

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silly fagot dicks are for chicks. are ice pirates simply not out of the closet all the way? Should I shave my beard? yes those skinny jeans make you look gay. Wonder if I took my blood pressure pill today? these socks are making my feet itch.i'm gonna teach my kids to make there poptarts into guns.oh yeah this spring i'm heading to devils lake to keep all them 10 pounders. GST, PLAINSMAN, MULTI whats your thoughts on this

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silly fagot dicks are for chicks. are ice pirates simply not out of the closet all the way? Should I shave my beard? yes those skinny jeans make you look gay. Wonder if I took my blood pressure pill today? these socks are making my feet itch.i'm gonna teach my kids to make there poptarts into guns.oh yeah this spring i'm heading to devils lake to keep all them 10 pounders. GST, PLAINSMAN, MULTI whats your thoughts on this

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silly fagot dicks are for chicks. are ice pirates simply not out of the closet all the way? Should I shave my beard? yes those skinny jeans make you look gay. Wonder if I took my blood pressure pill today? these socks are making my feet itch.i'm gonna teach my kids to make there poptarts into guns.oh yeah this spring i'm heading to devils lake to keep all them 10 pounders. GST, PLAINSMAN, MULTI whats your thoughts on this

Windsor?

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So, my post was quite skewed and sorry I came across a bit weird.  Had a pretty crappy day and wasn't going to hit post on what I was typing...I do that a lot because I am fearful of the responses I may get after seeing what others get blasted for is all.

I was trying to incorporate some humor, sarcastic thoughts, and mostly things to do with fishing.  Have I read the bible, absolutely, have I wasted my time with 5000 pages of Obamocare, doubtful anyone would.  That statement was stating that not many have read the bible and no one sure as heck would read Obamocare unless required.  

I really do like to look at this website for good information but it seems more and more difficult to weed through all of the BS topics, seems like 80% get into name calling and bickering after the 1st page, that is why I don't contribute, really am wanting to and thinking I am going to find ways to in the near future.

I also got side tracked bringing up all the fishing thoughts I have.  I love to fish, fish as often as I can.  When people start bickering I think it is a good concept to throw out some points about being outdoors and remembering those feelings...fishing and hunting is just as much about relaxing and taking it all in as the actual process of it.  

Anyways, good luck out there in the future, please feel free to ignore my 1st posts on this website, not quite what I had in mind.  Take care.    

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 So to all the people that are against gay marriage and don't want anything to do with them and think they should live on their own island...What you you do if your son/daughter turned out to be teh gheys? Would you go to their wedding? Would you never talk to them again? And it's not the 70's and 80's so don't say you'd beat it out of them lol.

 

 

 

 

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I just read Bobkat's idea of sterilyzing(sp) queers and could see the potential for stopping the bombastic encroachment upon all that's decent.  Two issues present themselves:  We for some reason don't sterilize(sp) rapists and it's not certain Islamic practice on female genetalia would stifle the deviant behavior in lesbians,or female rapists of any sex, gender or race.    

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I know you thrive on making cryptic nonsensical statements 7. But Bob didn't suggest we sterilize queers...he suggested we sterilize heterosexual folk beings they are the ones who give birth to the queers... Sterilizing queer folk would be dumb. They ain't doing much reproducing far as I can tell.

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espringers Said:
I know you thrive on making cryptic nonsensical statements 7. But Bob didn't suggest we sterilize queers...he suggested we sterilize heterosexual folk beings they are the ones who give birth to the queers... Sterilizing queer folk would be dumb. They ain't doing much reproducing far as I can tell.

Oh.  I thought it would scare them.

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Queenofthecats Said:
Plainsman...I really loved your post!  Sometimes life is too much to explain.  Sometimes a person just needs the concept of what drives and motivates.  In these cold winter days all a person has to do is sit inside and bicker with one another.  I am one to try to be better than the negativity of that, work does that crap for me.  In life there is only so much a person can control, in life there is constant worry, in life a person has to accept the things that he or she cannot change, has to accept that there are people that may not be good.  I bring up fishing because there isn't one single person that will ever be able to take that away from me.  Being out in there casting, drilling ice holes, fishing in 50 below zero is what life is about.  I call it silence.  Nothing matters, nobody is talking, bullshit is gone, who gives a crap if a person is homosexual, who gives a crap if the president is a black man, I don't.  Fishing is about thoughts.  Fishing is learning about yourself.  The hell with this topic, beating a dead horse that is already dead to a bloody pulp and then some right?  Words like faggot, queer, name calling towards is not something I would let my kids read in general.  I have 2 boys and not one of them are allowed on this website due to the fact that there is too much similarities that they see in school.  They are 12 and 14.  There are some on here that think this is funny and pull out the freedom of speech card.  For those I would like to ask this of you...if you were constantly bullied in school and called those names I won't repeat again would you still use those words?  How in the hell are you setting an example by labeling?  Getting off my soapbox now.  Take care and good luck out there.  

How do you determine you can not change things?

I am sure people were told that 200 and some odd years ago as well.

If there is one thing I have learned in 50 years, life ALWAYS changes.

Standing up and speaking out is a good thing when done with mutual respect, truth and a degree of intellect.

In todays world of political correctness far too many people simply don't do this because of the fear of "offending" someone.

The installation of political correctness to the degree we have seen it evolve in this country is a silencing of freedom of speech in and of itself . 

Ironic how it is the "party of tolerance" that is driving it.

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cyber bulling is real, we don't want to call the wammbulance. on another note it's a complete whiteout here

I'll catch more eye's than you

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